Was this a better version ?
#1
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Was this a better version ?
Here's few Baur cabrio proto pictures from 1985
And a winning concept from ASC. Picture was taken at Porsche Center Garmisch-Partenkirchen
Somehow i like Baur version more
What makes these pictures even more interesting is installed air bags in 1985.Showroom pictures are from Frankfurt motor show 1985
And a winning concept from ASC. Picture was taken at Porsche Center Garmisch-Partenkirchen
Somehow i like Baur version more
What makes these pictures even more interesting is installed air bags in 1985.Showroom pictures are from Frankfurt motor show 1985
#2
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It also has the '86 turbo front bumper and valance. Was it really an '86 turbo model that was just displayed late in '85?
What offset are those sewer caps? If it's an '86, they would have to be early offset.
What offset are those sewer caps? If it's an '86, they would have to be early offset.
#3
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It was possible to buy a 951 back in 1985 in europe. A friend of mine have a 951 which was made in june 1985.
Don't have any idea about wheel ETof Baur cab.But on prtotypes all new features/parts were installed earlier, so it is possible to see new ET wheels on 1985.
Another friend owns a very early MY '87 proto made early 1986. It is a new ET car with air bags and verys special aluminium glove box. Also crossover pipe is different style which Porsche never used on production versions.
How about this 1989 944 S3 proto
This is a factory 944 turbo proto from 1983/84
Interesting version with 951 style front bumber, no rear valance, old style interior, old style windscreen and 944 n/a brakes. Factory made 5 similar cars mostly for different german track events.
If it's an '86, they would have to be early offset.
Another friend owns a very early MY '87 proto made early 1986. It is a new ET car with air bags and verys special aluminium glove box. Also crossover pipe is different style which Porsche never used on production versions.
How about this 1989 944 S3 proto
This is a factory 944 turbo proto from 1983/84
Interesting version with 951 style front bumber, no rear valance, old style interior, old style windscreen and 944 n/a brakes. Factory made 5 similar cars mostly for different german track events.
Last edited by Olli Snellman; 01-29-2010 at 01:53 PM.
#5
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+1 ^^
Deutsch Nine sell a conversion kit from 944 to 968 rear....
http://www.deutschnine.com/mm5/merch...-aero-dynamics
Deutsch Nine sell a conversion kit from 944 to 968 rear....
http://www.deutschnine.com/mm5/merch...-aero-dynamics
#6
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Yeah I have a shot somewhere of a prototype 951 racing at Nelson Ledges in 1984. Has what looks to be 15" phonedials on it, turbo nose and rear valance. Not certain about the interior though.
In "Excellence Was Expected", there is a photo or two of a Bauer 944 Cab that is early offset with Fuchs wheels on it. Looks pretty good.
In "Excellence Was Expected", there is a photo or two of a Bauer 944 Cab that is early offset with Fuchs wheels on it. Looks pretty good.
#7
It was a better version, if you ask me
To your original question, the trunk lid and the lack of side fender caps looks a lot better in those first few photos than what they eventually came up with. Additionally, that large rear window actually looks usable on the concept.
I assume they chose the ASC design (what we ended up with) that required no metal work, in order to keep costs down.
I assume they chose the ASC design (what we ended up with) that required no metal work, in order to keep costs down.
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#8
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+1 ^^
Deutsch Nine sell a conversion kit from 944 to 968 rear....
http://www.deutschnine.com/mm5/merch...-aero-dynamics
Deutsch Nine sell a conversion kit from 944 to 968 rear....
http://www.deutschnine.com/mm5/merch...-aero-dynamics
#10
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To your original question, the trunk lid and the lack of side fender caps looks a lot better
ASC version was just cheaper to build, with all plastic add-ons.
#12
Olli Snellman said,
It's a shame that they chose the cheapest method. If you'll notice, the 944 cabrio doesn't look all that different from the Camaro and Z28 convertible of that era which were also ASC adaptations. Those plastic fender covers always irked me, even more so now that I know they actually considered other better looking options.
ASC version was just cheaper to build, with all plastic add-ons.
#13
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In that sticker glued to Camaro, ASC = Automobile Speciality Company. Is that the same company which made Porsche conversions. In most sources that company is named as American Sunroof Company ?
#14
They were the same company at one time
ASC, American Sunroof Corporation, ASC Custom Craft, Automobile Specialty Corporation, American Sunroof Manufacturing Co., Aeromotive Systems Co., ASC Holdings, American Sunroof Corporation West Coast, American Specialty Cars, ASC/McLaren Specialty Products, Southgate, Michigan
At one time or another ASC, which is headquartered in Southgate, Michigan, operated plants or design/engineering studios in: Kitchener, Ontario, Canada - Rancho Dominquez (Long Beach), California - Huntington Beach, California – Columbus, Ohio – Lordstown, Ohio - Bowling Green, Kentucky – Detroit, Michigan - Lansing, Michigan - Southgate, Michigan - Owosso, Michigan – Gibraltar, Michigan - Warren, Michigan - Oak Park, Michigan – East Tawas, Michigan - Linden, New Jersey - Bloomington, Illinois - Spartanburg, South Carolina - Atlanta, Georgia -Munich, Germany - Heilbronn, Germany – Weinsberg, Germany - Youngshon, South Korea – Martorell, Spain.
ASC was founded in late 1963 by Heinz Christian Prechter, a German foreign exchange student who was attending San Francisco State College. Born on January 19, 1942, Prechter was brought up on his family’s Kleinhöbing, Bavaria farm. He was fascinated by automobiles from an early age and entered the automotive apprenticeship program at the local Berufschule (vocational school) when he was 13. After school Prechter worked at his uncle’s auto repair shop, and following the successful completion of his studies, he was accepted at the Nuremburg Berufs-Oberschule (upper vocational school) where he interned at Deutz (diesel engines & tractors), Faunwerke (trucks and military vehicles) and Siemens (electronics).
At one time or another ASC, which is headquartered in Southgate, Michigan, operated plants or design/engineering studios in: Kitchener, Ontario, Canada - Rancho Dominquez (Long Beach), California - Huntington Beach, California – Columbus, Ohio – Lordstown, Ohio - Bowling Green, Kentucky – Detroit, Michigan - Lansing, Michigan - Southgate, Michigan - Owosso, Michigan – Gibraltar, Michigan - Warren, Michigan - Oak Park, Michigan – East Tawas, Michigan - Linden, New Jersey - Bloomington, Illinois - Spartanburg, South Carolina - Atlanta, Georgia -Munich, Germany - Heilbronn, Germany – Weinsberg, Germany - Youngshon, South Korea – Martorell, Spain.
ASC was founded in late 1963 by Heinz Christian Prechter, a German foreign exchange student who was attending San Francisco State College. Born on January 19, 1942, Prechter was brought up on his family’s Kleinhöbing, Bavaria farm. He was fascinated by automobiles from an early age and entered the automotive apprenticeship program at the local Berufschule (vocational school) when he was 13. After school Prechter worked at his uncle’s auto repair shop, and following the successful completion of his studies, he was accepted at the Nuremburg Berufs-Oberschule (upper vocational school) where he interned at Deutz (diesel engines & tractors), Faunwerke (trucks and military vehicles) and Siemens (electronics).