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Old 08-27-2002, 06:19 PM
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Question "Breakaway" bolt

What a joke that is! I'm trying to remove the steering column on this %$&#ing parts car. The service manuals say that one of the bolts needs to be drilled out or chiseled off. Yeah. Right. I wanted to get this done sometime in the 21st century. Anyone have any bright ideas for getting this thing off?

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I dont know if its the same but I tried to remove the steering column on a 924 once... I was parting the car out and by the time I got there it made me so mad I just took the cutting torch to it... Much happier but there is some mag. in the dash so watch out for the green flames. Sheeshhh...I still have nightmares about that steering column... I didnt end up even selling it because by the time I got it out it was distoyed...

Hope this make your feel a little better about your job ahead..

Old 08-27-2002, 06:33 PM
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[quote]Originally posted by sflraver:
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Hope this make your feel a little better about your job ahead..

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!?!?!?!?!?!?!? <img src="graemlins/roflmao.gif" border="0" alt="[hiha]" />

I wouldn't have a clue on how to torch something off. Please tell me there's a better way <img src="graemlins/crying.gif" border="0" alt="[crying]" />
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If it is the older style dash then there is a rivet that you must drill out at about 5 o'clock in the ignition post. This will allow for the key tumbler to pull right out completely and give you access to a screw that needs to be removed to get the column out. If you can take a look at one that is already out of a car, it will be completely clear after that.

Sorry no pics but once you hve the outer pannels off the column and or removed you will see the ignition post "Where the key goes" you will see the little rivit poking out. shear it off or drill it out and you will be home free.
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You dont want to torch it off, that was a joke. I only did it because I was parting the car out and it was striped exept for ... well.... the steering column. I am not sure how to get if off. As far as I could see on the 924 the bolts and nuts that held it on were welded together. It could be diffrent on the 944's but.. you never know. I just torched it off out of frustration because I couldnt get those damn things off.
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This is the newer dash - '87. It's a parts car and I'm trying to get the wiring harness. I couldn't care less about the steering column. There's a set of wires that forks off of the wires running over the steering column. I can't get to that set of wires with the column in place. There are two bolts under the post; one is a 12mm, the other has no head. It's just tapered. Now I know why I'm a lawyer and not an engineer. Sheesh, I'm about to lose my religion over this. Pleeeeeeze help! <img src="graemlins/crying.gif" border="0" alt="[crying]" />
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Michelle, just approach it with the same patience and care you would apply to writing a 4 generation-duration Trust that doesn't violate the Rule against Perpetuities and you'll be fine.

You just may have to consume 2 of those generations is all...

Lawyers and Engineers have a lot in common.

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[quote]Originally posted by Thaddeus:
<strong>Michelle, just approach it with the same patience and care you would apply to writing a 4 generation-duration Trust that doesn't violate the Rule against Perpetuities and you'll be fine.

Thaddeus</strong><hr></blockquote>

The rule against perpetuities is why I'm a criminal attorney! They can lock you up for 4 or 5 lives in criminal court, not a life in being plus 21 years
Old 08-28-2002, 03:43 AM
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When in doubt, use more force... <img src="graemlins/burnout.gif" border="0" alt="[burnout]" />
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Go to one of your local area hardware store. and pick up some concrete drills. these are carbide tipped. they will drill thru any thing. and are cheap. buy 2. one half the size of the bolt. the other close but under the size of the bolt you are drilling. Try your best to put a dent in the middle of the bolt using a centering punch. IF you can not do that. try slow Rpm on drill with the smaller bit and try to center it. the dent would help here.. If you can get the dent still start at a slow RPM.. till the small bit bites in.. The other option is a couple of carbide bits.. these are expensive. but the size is easier to get. but may have to look for some industrial supply places.. or tool supply places.. they are in your yellow pages..HTH
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A good cold chisel does not cost 3 dollars.. IT is more like 20.. Just incase you have to go that way. 3 dollar one will just dent.. itself.
Old 08-28-2002, 12:49 PM
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I f this is whats called in the trade a shear bolt where the head snaps off when the required torque has been reached, the way to go is a nice sharp centre punch. punch it straight into the end of the bolt first on an outer edge to get a good key, then gently tap anti clockwise until the bolt cracks off. You will probably find it will spin out easy from then.This is how I have been removing steering locks for years with this type of anti theft bolt.Ex merc mechanic 25yrs Hope this helps
Old 08-28-2002, 01:24 PM
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Michelle ; I just removed one , do it with a punch like musco just said.That bolt is like a rivet and will come right with a little persuasion.
Old 08-28-2002, 01:44 PM
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MichelleJD, I had to replace my steering shaft on my 83, let me tell you the procedure is not difficult, until you get to those shear bolts. You do have to drill them out in order to lower the steering shaft tube. I would also recomend removing the 2 bolts closer to the firewall and the firewall bushing/bearing as well. I have all the pics of this process. If you like I can e-mail them to you, just drop me a note. My e-mail is mattdavis11@hotmail.com.
Old 08-28-2002, 03:04 PM
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If they are standard shear bolts you definately dont need to drill them out,I've removed steering locks many times in the past with this type of bolt.It looks daunting when you first see it, but its really simple with a good center punch and hammer.



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