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Can't put the car in gear!, or "Is this Linkage Correct?"

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Old 09-09-2009, 10:02 PM
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Default Can't put the car in gear!, or "Is this Linkage Correct?"

I recently just got done putting in a brand new transaxle in my 1984 944 (remember?) So, while I was upgrading the trans, I decided to upgrade the linkage with a Weltmeister short throw shifter.

After following the worlds worst directions, I figured out how to put the assembly on the car. But, now, the car WILL NOT shift into gear #2,4, or reverse.

I must have something backwards.





Or, I may have the support bar- the filthy copper bracket that attaches to the other side of the trans- in the wrong spot. But I only found one hole over there...

Ideas?

C/Ns:New short throw, can't access gear R,2,4.
Old 09-09-2009, 10:18 PM
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Well... it is easy to see that the set bolt is on the wrong side.
IDK how to set those up though. But i can tell u didn't do it quite right
Old 09-09-2009, 10:22 PM
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It may seem that the set screw should rest against that flat spot. However, the spot that it is resting against has an indentation to accept a screw.
Old 09-09-2009, 10:37 PM
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If your set screw is correct then mine is on the wrong side. I should go switch it and see if it changes anything.

I don't know if this helps, but when I tried tightening that top screw on the rectangular piece with the shifter in neutral, I couldn't get it in 2nd or 4th either. I have to tighten it while in 2nd or 4th gear for it to be able to hit all the gears.

Maybe I did something wrong too...
Old 09-09-2009, 10:46 PM
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Man, couldn't they just throw in some DECENT instructions?!

I did swap that square block (indicator lever) over and try both sides of it. When I swapped it, the top gears (#1,3,5) didn't fully engage. So, the problem has to lie there, correct?
Old 09-09-2009, 10:49 PM
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Oh yeah... i forgot about the little hole...
Sorry...
Old 09-09-2009, 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Calmchaos
Oh yeah... i forgot about the little hole...
Sorry...
...that's what she said.



Okay. Back to work.
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Originally Posted by Modian
...but when I tried tightening that top screw on the rectangular piece with the shifter in neutral, I couldn't get it in 2nd or 4th either. I have to tighten it while in 2nd or 4th gear for it to be able to hit all the gears.

Maybe I did something wrong too...
So, could this be just a simple assembly problem? Like something as simple as torquing it down in gear opposed to in neutral?



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is the shaft in the collar sliding? is the set-screw on it it tight? (looks loose)

since it's the rearward throw gears not engaging it's apparent it's not moving rearward enough...

does the forward set screw on the shaft go thru a hole on the shaft? from their website it appears no...
try this:
loosen it
push the lever until you are in 2, 4 or R...
then tighten it...

after looking at it agin, I bet that fixes it...
I would then remove the screw, mark the hole on the shaft, then drill a small detent for the screw to 'bite'
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It is tight, and LocTite'd, just out of threads. I had someone row through the gears while I watched from underneath, and it didn't seem obstructed in any way.


Also, the shifter itself is no longer pointing slightly towards the driver in neutral, it is leaning strongly towards the right. The gears feel like the whole pattern was shifted towards the right, if that makes sense.
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you should align the shaft to be perpendicular when in 3 and 4
the lever arm may need to move inward (or out) on the tranny shaft...
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http://www.tech-session.com/kb/index.php?article=40
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Perpendicular in three and four? what does that mean?


Also-
"When tightening the heim joint, make sure it is parallel with the aluminum arm. This provides the full travel necessary for proper shifting. Failure to position the heim joint correctly will result in shifting problems. "
For this step, are we talking about the Aluminum stock arm (The one on the gear selector) being parallel to the large flat verticle part of the assembly (the part that the factory bracket bolts to) as viewed from the rear of the car?

I think I'm almost there to fixing this problem, I just can't quite visualize it...
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Originally Posted by ArthurPE
you should align the shaft to be perpendicular when in 3 and 4
the lever arm may need to move inward (or out) on the tranny shaft...
Arthur, can you please explain this using the labeled picture below?

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Old 09-10-2009, 04:06 PM
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This thread is interesting. In occasion I get a bit of grind into fourth on track, with a brand new transmission and short shift linkage. I am pretty sure I installed it in neutral. I know for a fact the bolt points the same way as wrx's does cause it seemed weird to me too, but that is just how it is.


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