Got 500 miles out of my tank this weekend
02-12-2003 | 08:25 AM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Originally posted by *Michael*:
[QB I am paying about $.45 per liter for 93 Octane here in Germany, on base that is.[/QB]</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Yeah, how about off-base, Michael? I'm paying around €0.90 per liter. You obviously never buy fuel at the German gas stations... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />
[QB I am paying about $.45 per liter for 93 Octane here in Germany, on base that is.[/QB]</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Yeah, how about off-base, Michael? I'm paying around €0.90 per liter. You obviously never buy fuel at the German gas stations... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />
02-12-2003 | 09:51 AM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Hows does anyone afford to go anywhere over there!!! If I was spending $70/tank on gasoline I don't think I would have ever moved out of my parents house! </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">And because of Iraq situation gas price went up here! it's between €1.11-1.25 / liter <img border="0" alt="[crying]" title="" src="graemlins/crying.gif" />
So, it's between € 88.8 - €100 / tank !
and not to mention what it cost to buy a 951 here! Prices are between €15.000 - €20.000 !
You get everything for free !
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Since I've never traveled outside of North America, is the public transportation better or do moe people ride bicycles/live within walking distance of work? Maybe the world salary is just that much higher as to pay for fuel consumption.... whew, I'm obviously unedumacated in this respect.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Yes we have a very good public transportation system. Most people live in suburbs like you americans, so we need to have transportation to go to work.
If i choose to go to work with train i have 2 minutes walk to railway station from my home.Then i pick up a subway from Helsinki main railwaystation and after that five minutes walk to work.Total time app. 25 minutes. It will take same amount of time with my own car (which i use to go to work).
What comes to salaries in europe, i suppose it's quite close what you get.In the other hand your taxes are much lower! We just don't have that much money to spend as you have!
what comes to traveling, you should travel outside NA! There is also life outside the States.
I have lived & traveled in the States and i enjoyed it, but i have also enjoyed traveling in almost 50 different countries i have visited <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />
So, it's between € 88.8 - €100 / tank !
and not to mention what it cost to buy a 951 here! Prices are between €15.000 - €20.000 !
You get everything for free !
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Since I've never traveled outside of North America, is the public transportation better or do moe people ride bicycles/live within walking distance of work? Maybe the world salary is just that much higher as to pay for fuel consumption.... whew, I'm obviously unedumacated in this respect.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Yes we have a very good public transportation system. Most people live in suburbs like you americans, so we need to have transportation to go to work.
If i choose to go to work with train i have 2 minutes walk to railway station from my home.Then i pick up a subway from Helsinki main railwaystation and after that five minutes walk to work.Total time app. 25 minutes. It will take same amount of time with my own car (which i use to go to work).
What comes to salaries in europe, i suppose it's quite close what you get.In the other hand your taxes are much lower! We just don't have that much money to spend as you have!
what comes to traveling, you should travel outside NA! There is also life outside the States.
I have lived & traveled in the States and i enjoyed it, but i have also enjoyed traveling in almost 50 different countries i have visited <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />
02-12-2003 | 02:35 PM
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$2 isnt really that bad though. At least we arent in Europe.....
I mean, I would seriously take $2 for the rest of our driving lives. I have a bad feeling one of these days it will get much higher and we will wish for the $2 or less a gallon
I mean, I would seriously take $2 for the rest of our driving lives. I have a bad feeling one of these days it will get much higher and we will wish for the $2 or less a gallon
02-12-2003 | 04:55 PM
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local paper article: <a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2003/02/12/BU193677.DTL" target="_blank">Bay Area drivers pained at pump gasoline prices soar 14 cents a gallon</a>
02-12-2003 | 07:00 PM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva"> Paul, your car has a knock sensor and the computer has the ability to retard timing and alter mixture to prevent detonation. You might be costing yourself some power with the lower octane fuel. Having said that, running more octane than you need is not only a waste, it is actually counter productive, as high octane fuels burn slower than low octane ones. The octane rating of the fuel is simply an indication of resistance to detonation. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Point taken, that's one of those things that I hadn't thought of "that" way.
I think that I'll start using the good stuff now, the difference here between 87 and 93 is .16, I don't think that will torment my miserly soul too much.
Thanks
I think that I'll start using the good stuff now, the difference here between 87 and 93 is .16, I don't think that will torment my miserly soul too much.
Thanks
02-13-2003 | 04:07 AM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Originally posted by deni durrell:
<strong>chris... i'm assuming you put 91 octane in your car.. what are prices down there in your neck of the concrete? we're getting around US$2.08-2.15 per gallon. For those of you that aren't in USA, that equates to €0,52/l (?).....</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">You lucky ---,premium costs here about € 1,2/l ! It used to be around €1,0/l,but now there's some extra because someone is playing with matches too close to the source...
Pete
<strong>chris... i'm assuming you put 91 octane in your car.. what are prices down there in your neck of the concrete? we're getting around US$2.08-2.15 per gallon. For those of you that aren't in USA, that equates to €0,52/l (?).....</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">You lucky ---,premium costs here about € 1,2/l ! It used to be around €1,0/l,but now there's some extra because someone is playing with matches too close to the source...
Pete
02-13-2003 | 10:43 AM
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Michael,
Isn't the gas on base still rationed however? I remember when I was in Germany I had a "coupon book" that only allowed me so many gallons of gas per month. I had a VW GTI at the time so it didn't matter much but imagine the guys who bring their Excursions to Germany with them?
Isn't the gas on base still rationed however? I remember when I was in Germany I had a "coupon book" that only allowed me so many gallons of gas per month. I had a VW GTI at the time so it didn't matter much but imagine the guys who bring their Excursions to Germany with them?
02-13-2003 | 05:18 PM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">someone is playing with matches too close to the source</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Could that someone be <a href="http://www.ddurrelltech.com/To-Some-in-Europe.doc" target="_blank">"Cowboy George"</a>? Nah!!!
