I serisouly need help with my door locks - FIXED!
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I am at my wits end and I hate to even admit this, but my car has been sitting in my garage for about 3 weeks now because I can't figure out these door locks. (I can actually tear apart my engine, but I can't fix the door lock
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I just picked up the replacement part pictured below from the dealership. Turns out Porsche doesn't make them anymore and whoever does make them does a pretty **** poor job at it. There's a lot of play in the linkage. However I think it should still work fine.
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So my big problem at this point is that when I attach the latch assembly that's on the side of the door, it will freeze everything so nothing moves. Once the pin that goes through the metal it will bind the mechinisim inside. Doesn't matter if I put it on with the door locked or unlocked. And I've tried my assembly and one from a junk yard with exact same results. Also with a second external latching piece as well. So to me that means that I'm doing something wrong. But for the life of me I can't figure it out.
Any words of wisdom for a frustrated 944 owner?
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The picture above just shows all I'm doing is putting the two peices together. It will jam wheather they are in the door on outside. I can actually see how that pin interferes with the movement of the other pieces, but I don't understand why it does that. Obviously it's not normal.
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I just picked up the replacement part pictured below from the dealership. Turns out Porsche doesn't make them anymore and whoever does make them does a pretty **** poor job at it. There's a lot of play in the linkage. However I think it should still work fine.
<img src="http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/blackpiece.jpg" alt=" - " />
So my big problem at this point is that when I attach the latch assembly that's on the side of the door, it will freeze everything so nothing moves. Once the pin that goes through the metal it will bind the mechinisim inside. Doesn't matter if I put it on with the door locked or unlocked. And I've tried my assembly and one from a junk yard with exact same results. Also with a second external latching piece as well. So to me that means that I'm doing something wrong. But for the life of me I can't figure it out.
Any words of wisdom for a frustrated 944 owner?
<img src="http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/doorlock2.JPG" alt=" - " />
The picture above just shows all I'm doing is putting the two peices together. It will jam wheather they are in the door on outside. I can actually see how that pin interferes with the movement of the other pieces, but I don't understand why it does that. Obviously it's not normal.
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I am sure it has something to do with your avatar...
Please keep me posted on th esolution, as I have a funny feeling I will be doing surgery on my door handles soon, too.
Regards, ...Scott
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Please keep me posted on th esolution, as I have a funny feeling I will be doing surgery on my door handles soon, too.
Regards, ...Scott
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Your avatar is 2nd only to the 944 sliding sidways w/the tires on fire one.
Have you ever towed w/your Explorer. I need to find a tow vehicle before the season starts.
Your avatar is 2nd only to the 944 sliding sidways w/the tires on fire one.
Have you ever towed w/your Explorer. I need to find a tow vehicle before the season starts.
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LOL I love that avatar....fun with rentals.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Originally posted by Douglas_T:
<strong>This seems to happening alot lately. Does the cold bring out the worst in this part?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Actually I'll find out tonight. The two main parts next to my hand is sitting inside. So I'll mess with them tonight and see if they function correctly.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Originally posted by clubracer6:
<strong>Raceit - 2 things
Your avatar is 2nd only to the 944 sliding sidways w/the tires on fire one.
Have you ever towed w/your Explorer. I need to find a tow vehicle before the season starts.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">The only thing I've ever towed was, coincidently, a double axle U-Haul trailer. My '91 Explorer came with (I think from the factory) a Class 2 hitch and a tranmission cooler. So I'd assume it has a towing package. It did quite well with a full trailer. I think the limit on these trucks is about 4000lbs. But if you're looking into a early model Explorer for a tow vechicle I'd get a 4 door. They are longer and of course more stable.
If you've got any other questions on them let me know.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Originally posted by Douglas_T:
<strong>This seems to happening alot lately. Does the cold bring out the worst in this part?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Actually I'll find out tonight. The two main parts next to my hand is sitting inside. So I'll mess with them tonight and see if they function correctly.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Originally posted by clubracer6:
<strong>Raceit - 2 things
Your avatar is 2nd only to the 944 sliding sidways w/the tires on fire one.
Have you ever towed w/your Explorer. I need to find a tow vehicle before the season starts.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">The only thing I've ever towed was, coincidently, a double axle U-Haul trailer. My '91 Explorer came with (I think from the factory) a Class 2 hitch and a tranmission cooler. So I'd assume it has a towing package. It did quite well with a full trailer. I think the limit on these trucks is about 4000lbs. But if you're looking into a early model Explorer for a tow vechicle I'd get a 4 door. They are longer and of course more stable.
If you've got any other questions on them let me know.
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I had problems with one of my locks not operating correctly - I could lock it from inside but I could not lock it with a key from outside. It was very frustrating. The assembly must have been worn or bent at some stage but very subtly. It turned out that the piece with the adjustable black plastic socket was binding at its other end where it pivots (the flat end). I ended up filing the rod part to extend the flat area and this allowed it to clear the other moving parts so that it now operates correctly. You will need to observe the mechanism in operating to see if yours is binding in a similar manner. HTH.
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A couple of stupid thoughts-but they may jog something loose on someone's memory.
1) When you pulled the two halves apart originally, did something that might have been held in place by that pin move? For example does that return spring rest against the pin originally, but when you pulled it apart, the spring was "released" so when you put it back now-there is no tension in the spring-thereby locking the movement?
2) Did the pin itself move? Slip out?
3) When you re-install, do you have to move the assembly "back into place", and then put the two sides together? Man-this is hard to describe. Think of it like this; the pin is a fulcrum for 2 pieces that are under tension-when you remove the pin, the pieces under tension move out of alignment. When you put the pin back in, it is no longer a fulcrum, but a block to the movement of 1 of the pieces. I'll e-mail you my office number-maybe I can describe it better over the phone.
1) When you pulled the two halves apart originally, did something that might have been held in place by that pin move? For example does that return spring rest against the pin originally, but when you pulled it apart, the spring was "released" so when you put it back now-there is no tension in the spring-thereby locking the movement?
2) Did the pin itself move? Slip out?
3) When you re-install, do you have to move the assembly "back into place", and then put the two sides together? Man-this is hard to describe. Think of it like this; the pin is a fulcrum for 2 pieces that are under tension-when you remove the pin, the pieces under tension move out of alignment. When you put the pin back in, it is no longer a fulcrum, but a block to the movement of 1 of the pieces. I'll e-mail you my office number-maybe I can describe it better over the phone.
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I got it fixed.
And I still don't know why I had to modify so many freaking parts.
What I had to do what file down the oppisite side with the flat end. Below you can see the top of the pin which shows the normal profile. Below that is everything I had to file away.
<img src="http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/P1260010.jpg" alt=" - " />
The picture below shows the normal flat side on the top and the filed part below.
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File part on the top this time.
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Even with all the filing I did it shouldn't effect the integerty of the pin any as the arm that hits it still hits the top as opposed to hitting the flat side where it's weaker.
Then as if that load of crap wasn't enough the replacement part (the one with the adjustable black piece for the door handle) I got needed a good squeeze in the vise to take the play out the pivot point. And then the arm wasn't quite long enough. So then I had to literly thread the black piece on one time and secure it againts a nut. Which surprisingly holds it very well.
<img src="http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/P1260011.jpg" alt=" - " />
Needless to say I'm pretty confused why it was this much trouble. But at this point I don't care. I was happy to take the her out for a spin today.
In a related post where I was trying to figure out why my alarm flashers were going off I was able to fix that as well. Turns out once I got everything back together all I had to do was put the key in the drivers side door lock and unlock it.
And I still don't know why I had to modify so many freaking parts.
What I had to do what file down the oppisite side with the flat end. Below you can see the top of the pin which shows the normal profile. Below that is everything I had to file away.
<img src="http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/P1260010.jpg" alt=" - " />
The picture below shows the normal flat side on the top and the filed part below.
<img src="http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/P1260009.jpg" alt=" - " />
File part on the top this time.
<img src="http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/P1260007.jpg" alt=" - " />
Even with all the filing I did it shouldn't effect the integerty of the pin any as the arm that hits it still hits the top as opposed to hitting the flat side where it's weaker.
Then as if that load of crap wasn't enough the replacement part (the one with the adjustable black piece for the door handle) I got needed a good squeeze in the vise to take the play out the pivot point. And then the arm wasn't quite long enough. So then I had to literly thread the black piece on one time and secure it againts a nut. Which surprisingly holds it very well.
<img src="http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/P1260011.jpg" alt=" - " />
Needless to say I'm pretty confused why it was this much trouble. But at this point I don't care. I was happy to take the her out for a spin today.
In a related post where I was trying to figure out why my alarm flashers were going off I was able to fix that as well. Turns out once I got everything back together all I had to do was put the key in the drivers side door lock and unlock it.
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well.... my drivers side door lock is fake or something. when i put ym key in it i cant even turn it. it doesnt even wiggle a little its liek its not even a real lock. to unlock my door i put my key int he passenger side and turn it and the drivers side door pops open... is that weird. hah.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Originally posted by Cass944:
<strong>well.... my drivers side door lock is fake or something. when i put ym key in it i cant even turn it. it doesnt even wiggle a little its liek its not even a real lock. to unlock my door i put my key int he passenger side and turn it and the drivers side door pops open... is that weird. hah.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Have you taken it apart? You shouldn't even need to remove your inside door panel. Icat has some good directions for his 968 door handle replacement that will take you through what you need to know.
<strong>well.... my drivers side door lock is fake or something. when i put ym key in it i cant even turn it. it doesnt even wiggle a little its liek its not even a real lock. to unlock my door i put my key int he passenger side and turn it and the drivers side door pops open... is that weird. hah.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Have you taken it apart? You shouldn't even need to remove your inside door panel. Icat has some good directions for his 968 door handle replacement that will take you through what you need to know.