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Old 05-22-2009 | 03:00 PM
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Hey guys,
while back i picked up an NA coilover kit with 350lb springs... will this set up rattle my teeth out?
Old 05-22-2009 | 03:14 PM
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no but speedbumps will hurt at over 1mph

are these just for the front or the rear as well? also you should look into bigger swaybars to match those springs.
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Just front, I've got turbo sway bars for the front also. Something tells me those springs will be way too much though.
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Depends on the shock / valving. I dont think so, it will be firmer though.

My daily driver has 500/600# springs and with the rebound set to soft it rides great...

edit: if you are just installing those up front you will need something more in the rear.

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Originally Posted by SamGrant951
Depends on the shock / valving. I dont think so, it will be firmer though.

My daily driver has 500/600# springs and with the rebound set to soft it rides great...
Sam, is the 951 your DD or are you talking about a different car? I would think 500# would be really stiff for a daily driven 944. If you talking about the bmw, I could see that.
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I wouldnt think it would be so bad , as you all ready have the big bars .... but i would say .... PUSH ....... You have introuduced alot of understeer into the car . New torsions will be on your list soon.
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Sam, is the 951 your DD or are you talking about a different car? I would think 500# would be really stiff for a daily driven 944. If you talking about the bmw, I could see that.
BMW has 500/600. The 951 has less spring rate but is much much stiffer d/t the Bilstein Escort valving.

951 daily driver That piece hasnt moved in 3 months
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Yep, understeer.
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Hey guys,
while back i picked up an NA coilover kit with 350lb springs... will this set up rattle my teeth out?
I agree with what Sam is saying. I have 350s and 30mm torsion bars and it really depends on how good/bad your roads are. Do you feel bumps more, absolutely, is it intolerable, not for me but the car isn't my DD either. Best bet is to find someone local with the setup so you can feel what it is like on the roads in the area where you live, if that's possible.


Sam, is the 951 your DD or are you talking about a different car?
The 951 as Sam's DD, good one Alan!!
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I didn't think so... but you never know with you crazy Hoosiers.
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My plan is to fit the KW Variant 3 coil overs. They are 340 front and 285 rear (to be used with Tbars). From all accounts these are brilliant shocks as they incorporate valving that takes out the rough ride over uneven surfaces yet provide great control on the track. Full rebound and compression damping adjustment are included. Not cheap - but I think worth it.

There's probably a few people in Rennlist that have these that could extoll their virtues.
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350lb is pretty soft. I have 600/700 and that feels ok with the koni's set at medium stiffness
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I would never call 350# "soft" but they should be tolerable. I have 450# and Bilstein Escort Cups and it's definitely more at home on track than the street. It also depends on the roads around you. If they're relatively smooth, you won't even notice a difference.

Like others said, now that the front is stiffer, you're gonna want to balance it with a stiffer rear.
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Originally Posted by Eric_Oz_S2
Full rebound and compression damping adjustment are included. Not cheap - but I think worth it.
You're not kidding -- like about USD$2500 not cheap, before shipping! I salute your dedication to the cause...
Old 05-23-2009 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 67rschev
New torsions will be on your list soon.
+1

I pulled the 250lb springs back off the struts until I can stomach doing the torsions (because the WYIT principal means doing all the bushings etc) - early NA torsions are weak.


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