RED87944S

http://www.renegadehybrids.com/944/LS-1/LS-1.html

so the basic parts kit includes everything u need to do a ls1 swap,other then the engine and turbo trany?

RED87944S

i guess that would include 944 S? and are they the best company to go with?cheapest?

Daily944

From my research and understanding they have done the most for 944/lsx swap and are the most knowledgeable. They have used and tested all their products over the years.

I know there are several LSx users here but the best place to get more info would be http://www.porschehybrids.com

dream951

I wouldnt say "everything you need." The basic kit, will get you close to getting the ls1 in your car but you still will need, a clutch disc that fits the 944 spline but the diameter of the ls1, custom headers, fuel line if needed to convert from a return style to returnless, custom wiring harness, a custom ecu to get rid or vats, ETC... If your thinking about a swap like this, PLEASE DO A LOT OF RESEARCH BEFORE HAND! Theres a lot of stuff going on with a swap like this.

If you have any questions I would be happy to answer them. Ive dealt with Renegade Hybrids, and I use their kit.

BTW, if you didnt already know, I have a completed LS1 swapped 951.

zoltan944

I have met the guys there in Vegas. They are good guys and do good work. I know several people with the V8 in their 914. I have done a swap in a first gen RX7 and I will say that Basic Kits are for guys that have lots of fabrication skills, time, and resources. I recommend getting complete kits and making your life very easy on yourself.

RED87944S

so where can i get the whole kit if i can?

V2Rocket

their site sells everything youll need, some of which isnt in the actual kit

RED87944S

why is it the basic kit if it dose not have everything i need,now i am confused and dont know what i need and what i might want as a upgrade..anyway,i am not in any hurry,i guess i will email them..

dream951

Its "basic" since everyone has there own preferences to what parts they want and what they dont.

If they offered a full kit on their website, they probably wouldnt sell a lot because if you add up everything they sell to get your car running, your looking at over $5k just for the kit, then you have to try and find an engine on top of that price.

You honestly dont need everything from them, unless you dont know anyone that can fab just a few minor parts for you.

And thats good your not in a hurry because they are very slow over there, so plan ahead and when you ready to order a kit from them, sooner is better. It will usually take much longer then their stated 4-6 weeks.

968ls1

You don't need their radiator and fans, you can use stock turbo radiator and fans they will work fine unless you are tracking in Hot climates.

Reimu

Just chill and enjoy your 944S

Worry about engine swaps later.. much later.

wesmc3

I have an LS6 in my 944. I bought EVERYTHING from Renegade to make the swap easy. What I found is that they sub most of this stuff out and if there is a problem they are less than zero help. I would not recommend this swap unless you could fabricate most of the stuff yourself. Then when the harness they sold you doesn't work you can sort it. When the oil pan they sold you leaks like the Exxon Valdiz you can fix it. When the PS delete they sell is nowhere near right you can fabricate one.

Then you can listen to all the reasons they shouldn't take their crappy parts back.

Nice guys, not enough knowledge or quality control.

dream951

Not to hijack or anything but how long ago did you swap the LS6?? Just curious since Renegade uses a slighty redesigned oil pan now and i have ZERO issues with it leaking.

CPR

There were 2 swaps listed on the 951 forum....in November/December '08 (I think)....that had the same issue with the oil pans. Maybe a bad batch...maybe all relative to the shape of the donor car they salvage them from...not sure, but it appears as if you got lucky with yours, OR they got unlucky...depending on the point of view.

Also the wiring harnesses have been problematic for a few, but moreso the issues with improper re-programming of the donor ECU and/or its' condition seemed to be a bigger gripe that has been documented/posted.

With that said, it is always a challenge to build and provide quality parts/pieces for a swap, irregardless of what it is going in. Take into account that more than half of those performing it have no clue as to what they're doing, so maybe some of these issues are related to am improper install.

Either way, Renegade is definitely the most experienced outfit when it comes to these and I am sure they do the best they can. There is alot going on in there for one these, as I am sure you are well versed in it

dream951

Hmm, maybe it was just a bad batch of the old ones, I ordered mine in December of '08 as well...

Anyways, Ill have to agree that Renegade is the most experienced out there when it comes to these swaps, and with some knowledge, IMHO, they make this swap "pretty easy".