jstand22

no there was not

Lorax is right, if the cars did exist, it was not done by Porsche. It was probably an aftermarket project.

Relaxed90

I have a feeling someone got duped into buying a Turbo.....but got an S2 instead, lol.

Jfrahm

Or an 89 Turbo with an S2 front fender.

RolexNJ

You could always turbo an 16V n/a.

Relaxed90

You're probably right.

tifosiman

I have that same book and it has a lot of errors in it. I would take that info with a rather large grain of salt.

There is no factory-supplied info on that production car, nor is there any mention of it in "Excellence Was Expected" (which is pretty much the bible on Porsche as far as I am concerned). The factory never did a 16V turbo. Not even when they did the 968TS/TRS line. This is just another "944 myth" that you can throw into the pile with the others, like the "RUF 944".

peanut

well I must admit I have never really researched this extensively . I accepted that the book was correct because it is a specialist book on just 924 and 944 cars by an acknowledged expert. The article has never been refuted as far as I am aware .

I'll keep an open mind for now until I see some confirmation from another reputable source. Its interesting that the PCGB forum hasn't refuted it as far as I kmow.

It certainly would be an expensive and elaborate scam if it was a hoax.

I've just checked Porsche 944 by Brian Long and he describes the same car as a Turbo SE (called the Turbo S in the US )
The ultimate Turbo 944 it had every concievable extra as standard including the split rear seats, LSD, and 1000 were supplied in Silber Rose colour although apparently a further 675 were supplied in standard trim.

So it looks like it was true unless this book is wrong also.

tifosiman

The TurboS actually does exist. But it is in no way the same car we are talking about here and is not a 16V turbo. It was an 8v turbo with 250hp versus the standard 220hp of the regular 944 turbo.

peanut

well it looks like some of the description in the Nigel Edwardes book has been mis-transcribed .
The Turbo SE is 250BHP and is fully loaded and was a 1000 car limited edition in special livery so that part was true.

Clearly however whilst the Ventiler is not the Turbo SE the car pictured does exist at least two have been found. I will try to find out more.

Ventiler means 16 valver so the badges on the OP's car and engine inlet must mean that he has a 16 valve 944S 2.7

peanut

I owe you an apology grovel grovel

Looks like the book i quoted from used incorrect info and I was taken in .
Seems like the Ventiler was mistaken for the Turbo S (or SE in Europe.)

jstand22

i dont see how there was such a big mix up

'ventiler' just means valves, it's not the name of a car.

the only 924/944/968 cars that had 16vavles (from the factory) were the S,S2, 968 period.

Jfrahm

There is no 16v 2.7L factory engine, the 944S is 2.5L and the S2 and 968 is 3.0L.
The 2.7 is found in the 1989 944 8-valve. It used the 104mm bore block like the S2 but with a 2.5L sized crank.

-Joel.

peanut

yes I think we are aware of that. The logo on the air filter housing says 16 ventiler
Anyway the ventiler or 944s was a special edition car apparently and we are trying to find out a little more about this car

Tom R.

no, assuming the body on the car is the one that it left the factory with, an 89, 90, 91 944 that looks just like a 944 turbo and has 16 ventilier on the fender is a 944S2. see red car in my signature. that is a S2. The burgandy/pink car is a turbo S
It is not turbocharged, it has a 3.0l 16 valve motor, the body, and brakes from a 88 turbo, abs is standard (optional on all turbos but 89) and turbo S sway bars.

some people that live/lived in lower altitudes prefer the S2 to the turbo at lower altitudes.

Tom R.

i think that is a mixture of a few factory cars.

there was a limited edition siver car. AndyK had one and a lister bought it from him.

the 2.5 944 had 16 valves in 87 and 88 and was the 944S

The 250hp with split rear seats and heated seats was probably the 88 silver rose edition of the Turbo S. my 89 turbo aka 89 turbo S does not have split rear seats or hiney heaters.

Then there are the turbos that had the turbo decal on the wing (fender). dont know of any 16v decal on any doors.