theedge

The speed/ref sensors often do break so hes not BSing you there. Clutch fork... Its happened. James is a straight shooter.

Yummybud924

so you think I should replace the fork even if there are not crackas in it and it looks fine?

depending on if the ref sensors break and how the labour goes, I'll ask him tom I'd get the fork replaced.

but if I need 2 new sensors and the labour is going to be more than 10 hours (he said 10-15 hours). then I may not want to get the clutch fork done unless necessary because it's going to cost me way to much right now.

theedge

Im the wrong guy to ask, I tend to replace almost anything and everything while im in there, or upgrade James can attest to that.

A good alternative is the Markus Blazack forks. He welds them for strength and puts in bronze bearings to get rid of the needle bearings. Its $120 or $140 and you ship him your old one as a core.

VOoDOoGTX

i pulled my ref sensors and they didnt break. and they were really badly stuck.

Van

I think this shop is raping you.

I'm an amateur dude, and a few weeks ago, Voodoo, Type_LT and I changed a turbo clutch in about 12 hours. We were careful and didn't damage anything.

On an NA car with the trans coupler disconnected and the exhaust off, I don't think it should take an experienced shop more than 6 hours.

Yummybud924

that's what I thougth.

how the fck can it be 10-15 hours when the trans and exhaust is already out and they have a lift and power tools etc?

10-15 hours of actual work is a lot of work.....

cruise98

You can use the aftermarket version of the speed and reference sensors that cost a fraction of the Porsche part. Paragon sells them for $66/each. The connection between the sensor and the engine harness are what usually break. Replace them only if they are broken.

The clutch fork should be fine if it passes inspection. Do replace the bushings and pin though. You are taking some risk using the original part. My clutch fork has 180k miles on it and is fine. Many shops want to replace everything and it sounds like this mechanic is trying to make sure this repair is well done and you will not have any future issues. Replacing the clutch on any 944 is a major repair, and there are several items to consider during the work.

Tom R.

now i know why a lot of shops dont want to work on old cars.

if he doesnt change the sensors and in three weeks one fails it is his fault - right?

V2Rocket

ref sensors should be about $100 apiece, i might have one or two at my house that i could let go for alot less. ill have to check though but it would be another week or so.

i got a spare clutch fork with good bearings off ebay for 99 cents. i reused my original one anyways and havent had any problems.

i have no idea where they get the notion that nuts and bolts will cost $150. a good hardware store should have everything you need.

here's the store i got all my hardware from. they may be far but im sure they could ship whatever you need.
http://www.marshallshardware.com/

Yummybud924

lol well this is a mechanic shop they also make money by selling me nuts and bolts and extra parts. I can't tell them to go to home hardware to save me money.

Yummybud924

I'll let you guys know what happens. The car will probably be done tomorrow afternoon/ evening.

today he will probably get the clutch done and tell me if I need a new fork or new sensors.

Mike C.

Installing new clutch fork bearings and pivot shaft is a good idea but the fork itself? Sounds fishy. If they break the ref sensors, tell them you'll have the car towed home and replace them yourself. As mentioned above, a good used clutch fork would be much cheaper. Ask him about that...

Yummybud924

Mike, that is what I told him yesterday. I said, " can't I replace the ref sensors myself after the repair is done if they break?"

and he told me , " no they have to be replaced when the bellhousing goes back in".

that didn't sound right to me.

V2Rocket

no, the ref sensors are easily removed with everything in the car. they are attached to a bracket at the back of the block and they reach down into the bellhousing but are in no way attached to the bellhousing.

DarylJ

Yes, they do have to be replaced when the bell housing goes back into the car. The part he didn't tell you is that you can take them out and replace them at any time after that.

You're getting hosed. Mostly because you handed him your steaming pile of fail, plus parts, and he's got to make up for not being about to mark up the parts you handed to him, plus the metric *** load of trouble the fail pile will certainly be.

I'd do the same thing if I were in his position.