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Old 10-30-2008 | 01:17 PM
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There is an 88 S coming up at one of the salvage sales I frequent, it has had an engine fire. what all is different between it and an regular 44. Might pick it up as parts car, I wish I knew if had an lsd. It's not a S2 I do know that much. Interior looks good from the pics 125k on the clock. I've always had 951 parts cars never an s
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The S has a 16 valve head, rather than an 8 valve which the rest of the 944 series had (save the S2). Many engine components are different than the other 944 cars because of this (intake, exhaust, fuel delivery, pistons and a few more) Unfortunately used S engine parts are hard to come by, especially the head. As much as I'd love to see one saved it may cost you quite a bit to find the parts you'll need. But if you're up for the challenge the S can be a fun car just like any 944. Makes a little more power than an 8valve (188hp vs. 147-155ish?) But do have more moving parts to worry about.
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The head alone is worth it if you can get the whole car for <$1,500. If it has LSD or sports then u can get your money back easily.
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Transmission gear ratios are different than a turbo or 8 valve car, so anyone looking for a transmission for an S may pay more. Also the exhaust system is different from an 8 valve car.
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5th gear IIRC is the most different than an NA...final drive ratio is still 9:35 though.

There was someone looking for a used head here that bent his valves from a broken cam chain...should be able to sell it!

If the price is right, I'd be interested as a spare or project head.
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my mistake I didn't read the fact you were going to part it, I thought you were looking at fixing it up. If engine the major engine components are good I'd get it. You can make some quick cash.
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I'll probably try to scoop it up and Lart it out. It has a euro lower on the rear, otherwise stock. The particular sale that is at is rather small so it will probably go cheap.
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The S head is worth more than a 968 head because it works for all those 951 guys looking to make 16v turbos.

The S suspension, brakes, and body are just like the standard 944.
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maybe I should buy the car and buildme a 16v turbo then!
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Or it is in the salvage pool because the head is cracked...
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Originally Posted by 944Fest (aka Dan P)
Or it is in the salvage pool because the head is cracked...
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it has had an engine fire.
I figure an engine fire is enough to throw a Porsche (by most non-Porsche people's standards) in the salvage pool.
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Originally Posted by 944obscene
I figure an engine fire is enough to throw a Porsche (by most non-Porsche people's standards) in the salvage pool.
Duh.. sorry, I missed that. I know of at least 4 951s that have come back from the engine fire, but you are right.. none were done by "sane" folks.
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My 944 had an engine fire, only took a couple hundred to fix it. The S on the other hand, if it caught on fire, I wouldn't be too happy. Btw, if you buy it, I'll put dibs on either the head, the cams, or both.
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Dan P!! Good to see you. I am one of those crazy ex-engine fire guys. But it was when the PO had it, and it was very minor. Still needed a new harness, hoses, vac. lines.
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Originally Posted by Spidey944
Dan P!! Good to see you. I am one of those crazy ex-engine fire guys. But it was when the PO had it, and it was very minor. Still needed a new harness, hoses, vac. lines.
My 944 and I watched as my friend's Turbo was totaled from an engine fire a year ago....very sad. The fire was so bad it burnt the paint off the hood and warped it, melted the engine latch together (the firemen had to use an axe to chop the hood open, and burnt pretty much everything in the engine bay. You're lucky.


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