Yummybud924

okay so now I can finally conclude that my clutch was bad. how do I know??

well today I got of Uni and was driving home when I made a right turn and started accelerating up a hill when screeeeeeeeeeeeccccchh i just hear a horrible screeching sound from the engine with the car in second gear and the car not accelerating anymore. When I rev it the screeeeching just gets louder.

okay so I knew right away there goes my clutch. I pull in front of someones hous and call a tow truck.

I didn't know what to do I thought about it and was going to order a clutch kit myself and was going to get a rennlist member to help me replace it but.....

I ended up changing my mind I really need the car badly to get to school and work so I need it fixed asap.

I called up Weissach in vancouver porsche shop here, they told me 750 bucks for the clutch and about 1000 for labour

so totall 1750 without tax so about 2000 bucks with tax.


I made an apointment and dropped the car off in the shop parking lot and it's now suppose to get a new clutch by next wednesday that's the fastest they can do it by.

now 2 grand is a lot of money when you are a student but this is my only car and I don't want to have it down for a couple of weeks. It takes me 3 hours to bus to class and it's a real pain without a second car.

now after paying 2 grand I can never sell the damn car as I'd lose too much money I've put into it.


I forgot to tell them to replace the rear main seal also as that shouldn't add much more to the price. tom I got to make sure the 750 bucks he quoted me was for a full clutch kit with release bearing and pressure plate.


I was having a good day until this happend.

2 grand is ridiculous for a clutch job. I bet it's cheaper to have the clutch replaced on a boxster.

Yummybud924

also is this weird.

I can still shift the car into any gear by depressing the clutch and it doesn't grind and goes into gear smoothly.

but when I release teh clutch it just squeels from the engine with no movement.


also in neutral transmission makes lots of gear chattering noise.

Daily944

Clutch plate has worn down to the rivets, that's the sound your hearing... metal on metal.

$1750 is about the going rate at a "Porsche experienced" shop. Make sure to have them replace the re4ar main while they are in there(the part is cheap). As for the labor price.. there is a lot of work in replacing the clutch. I'm not sure what kind of labor/hours they are quoting for, but where I work our system quotes 8 hours.. our shop's labor is $85/hr... from the looks of it they are charging $125/hr.

Jfrahm

Humming/whining noises are often R&P related. I was kinda thinking your clutch was OK and your trans was going out.

Yummybud924

109 an hour he said and he quoted me 8.5 hours to replace the clutch and 750 for the clutch part


now I know why people say 944s are expensive to maintain........

I know a guy that replaced his honda prelude clutch for like 300 bucks. on most cars a clutch job cost less than a 1000 bucks.

Yummybud924

well it looks like my clutch blew up. teh high pitched screeching from the engine when I releas the clutch must be the clutch busted.

Daily944

I can replace Honda motors for $400(lotsa of supply out there compared to the 944's)+ 250 for labor.. I have a good source and I was going thru them like crazy in my civic.


The problem with the 944 is the transaxle has to come out and the torquetube has to be completely free(also removing the exhaust), rotated and pulled back.. then the bell housing can be removed.. it's not the best design for replacing the clutch.

Yummybud924

I guess that's the price you have to pay for owning a "porsche" even if it's a porsche that is worth nothing in the real world.

the funny thing if i had a newer porsche like a 996 or boxster the clutch job would probably be cheaper.


if I had a second car or if i had the time I'd just pull the motor and replace the cltuch with the engine out. I think that would be easier than dropping the transmission and exhaust etc.

87 944 C

if you mangaed a newer 996 or boxster, it'd still be under warrenty.

tranny and engine work, no it's lost money, however; people will pay more for those parts being newer, one less major part they have to worry about.

there's one other thing. the more money you invest in a car mechanically to keep it safe and sound and reliable, the better the car. like mine. new clutch and new/used trans. other than needing brake rotors and alignment, i feel safe in my car.

honda's are cheap. there are probably more honda's from the 90's running around than porsche's from 1960-now...

Keithr726

haha be glad you don't own a 951

87 944 C

that's true, everything i've heard the 951 isn't exactly what most would consider reliable, nomatter what you really do. i guess if you rebuild everything than it can be, but that'd b a total loss.

Yummybud924

cosidering most people are not capaple of doing a clutch job on a 944 on their own, means most people have to pay about 2 grand to replace the clutch on a 944.

I have already spent so much on the car , new brakes, tires, fuel lines, oil seals, belts, water pump etc etc.


my 4100 944 I bought 2 years ago has now costed me like 10 grand if I add up all my receipts.


my car now has 265,000 kms on it so I guess it must be the original clutch at lasted that long. the previous owner told me he installed a new sachs clutch kit but he had nor receipts. I had a feeling he was lying.

yes I know a clutch on a 944 turbo costs even more and more labour.

that just sucks.

that's one advanatage a 928 has over a 944. plus most 928 automatics have no issues like this at all.


I heard the automatic 944 also needs a ridiculously expensive vibration damper and who the hell wants a auto 944 (sorry lol).

with all the money I'm spending on my 944 I could have almost paid off an early boxster...... I see early bosters going for around 13k candian.

do boxsters also have crazy expensive maintenance items like this? I've heard the engines grenade sometimes and that's like a 6 grand repair.

Yummybud924

I have already spent so much on the car , new brakes, tires, fuel lines, oil seals, belts, water pump etc etc.


my 4100 944 I bought 2 years ago has now costed me like 10 grand if I add up all my receipts.


my car now has 265,000 kms on it so I guess it must be the original clutch at lasted that long. the previous owner told me he installed a new sachs clutch kit but he had nor receipts. I had a feeling he was lying.

yes I know a clutch on a 944 turbo costs even more and more labour.

that just sucks.

that's one advanatage a 928 has over a 944. plus most 928 automatics have no issues like this at all.


I heard the automatic 944 also needs a ridiculously expensive vibration damper and who the hell wants a auto 944 (sorry lol).

with all the money I'm spending on my 944 I could have almost paid off an early boxster...... I see early bosters going for around 13k candian.

do boxsters also have crazy expensive maintenance items like this? I've heard the engines grenade sometimes and that's like a 6 grand repair

Keithr726

yeah cheap boxsters and 996s have problems...engine failure and rms leaks

No such thing as a cheap porsche. My 951 cost 8k with 15k in 4 years of maintenance. I then spent another 8 on it over two years. It is currently in the body shop after a accident but I do not want a crappy patch job or cheap respray, its going to set me back about 10. Yikes I don't even want to think about totals and you know what, my car is due for a clutch.

Daily944

Yeah, but it's a boxster.