Trailering a 944
05-08-2008, 12:55 PM
#61
Race Director
05-08-2008, 01:14 PM
#63
Race Director
Nope.
Nothing handy. It should be pretty obvious though... Drill hole and back up with washer & a nut. The eye bolt is like 6" long, but so what. There is plenty of dead space in there.
Nothing handy. It should be pretty obvious though... Drill hole and back up with washer & a nut. The eye bolt is like 6" long, but so what. There is plenty of dead space in there.
05-08-2008, 02:43 PM
#64
Race Director
05-08-2008, 03:27 PM
#65
Race Car
Thread Starter
I had to put the strap in the lower hole of my phone dial and it seemed to be anchoring agains the fase of the wheel instead of the width of the entire wheel. I also think the car rolled chase it wasn't being held by the side.
Why are seperate axle straps better than the combo straps I have?
Why are seperate axle straps better than the combo straps I have?
05-08-2008, 11:01 PM
#67
Race Car
Thread Starter
Here's another try at tying the car down usig the wheels. I think the car could have been up a few more inches as it seemed to bounce the truck around when I went over bumps. The problem is the ratchet part of the strap is almost right on the loow on the axle strap part. Also the rear passenger wheel strap loosened up after a 15 minute drive.
Let me know what you think. Thanks.
Let me know what you think. Thanks.
05-08-2008, 11:52 PM
#68
I think part of the problem is that your trailer is so short, it doesn't give you much room with which to work. What if you had a couple D-rings welded to the trailer frame rails farther forward of the deck? This would give you more room for the ratchet and everything wouldn't be so bunched up. I had extra D-rings welded to my trailer and it wasn't that expensive at all. Just a thought...
05-09-2008, 10:33 AM
#69
Race Director
Dan:
Two problems I see on how you tied down the front:
1. Where you put the straps through the wheel is too high. (Especially the driver's side) Look at Shiner's pic - where the yellow line is -- that is where you should be putting the strap. The lower the better.
2. Your ratcheting end should be connected to the trailer, not to the wheel part. (By using a separate axle strap through the wheels, you can accomplish this.)
Two problems I see with your rear setup:
1. I feel that the rears should be crossed, but the fronts be straight. It is a more secure setup that way.
2. Again, you should be putting the strap through the wheel below a lower spoke.
Dan - when are you trailering again - and where are you going? If you're going through NJ, perhaps you can stop by my place in Wayne, and we can go over your trailering setup... Let me know.
-Zoltan.
Two problems I see on how you tied down the front:
1. Where you put the straps through the wheel is too high. (Especially the driver's side) Look at Shiner's pic - where the yellow line is -- that is where you should be putting the strap. The lower the better.
2. Your ratcheting end should be connected to the trailer, not to the wheel part. (By using a separate axle strap through the wheels, you can accomplish this.)
Two problems I see with your rear setup:
1. I feel that the rears should be crossed, but the fronts be straight. It is a more secure setup that way.
2. Again, you should be putting the strap through the wheel below a lower spoke.
Dan - when are you trailering again - and where are you going? If you're going through NJ, perhaps you can stop by my place in Wayne, and we can go over your trailering setup... Let me know.
-Zoltan.
05-09-2008, 10:49 AM
#70
Race Car
Thread Starter
Dan:
Two problems I see on how you tied down the front:
1. Where you put the straps through the wheel is too high. (Especially the driver's side) Look at Shiner's pic - where the yellow line is -- that is where you should be putting the strap. The lower the better.
2. Your ratcheting end should be connected to the trailer, not to the wheel part. (By using a separate axle strap through the wheels, you can accomplish this.)
Two problems I see with your rear setup:
1. I feel that the rears should be crossed, but the fronts be straight. It is a more secure setup that way.
2. Again, you should be putting the strap through the wheel below a lower spoke.
Dan - when are you trailering again - and where are you going? If you're going through NJ, perhaps you can stop by my place in Wayne, and we can go over your trailering setup... Let me know.
-Zoltan.
Two problems I see on how you tied down the front:
1. Where you put the straps through the wheel is too high. (Especially the driver's side) Look at Shiner's pic - where the yellow line is -- that is where you should be putting the strap. The lower the better.
2. Your ratcheting end should be connected to the trailer, not to the wheel part. (By using a separate axle strap through the wheels, you can accomplish this.)
Two problems I see with your rear setup:
1. I feel that the rears should be crossed, but the fronts be straight. It is a more secure setup that way.
2. Again, you should be putting the strap through the wheel below a lower spoke.
Dan - when are you trailering again - and where are you going? If you're going through NJ, perhaps you can stop by my place in Wayne, and we can go over your trailering setup... Let me know.
-Zoltan.
I can lower the strap but I was assuming that the point in the middle of the wheel would be best to stop it from rolling.
Unless I am not understanding what you mean, the ratcheting end is connected to the trailer. The way I connected it is I took the separate strap and threaded it through the wheel. Connected the hook to the loop. then ran the strap down to the ratchet whcih was connected to the trailer. threaded that through the spindle and cranked it tight. I could remove the loop and use only the hook on the strap and attach to separate axle straps. Would that be better? Why?
What do you think about what shiner said about welding D-rings off the platform? His drawing makes it look better.
05-09-2008, 12:14 PM
#71
Dan, I'll be at the Glen on the 26/27 so look me up if you end up going!
05-09-2008, 12:41 PM
#72
Race Director
Z- Thanks for the offer. I might take you up on that. I might be headed to the Glen May 27th but not sure.
I can lower the strap but I was assuming that the point in the middle of the wheel would be best to stop it from rolling.
Unless I am not understanding what you mean, the ratcheting end is connected to the trailer. The way I connected it is I took the separate strap and threaded it through the wheel. Connected the hook to the loop. then ran the strap down to the ratchet whcih was connected to the trailer. threaded that through the spindle and cranked it tight. I could remove the loop and use only the hook on the strap and attach to separate axle straps. Would that be better? Why?
What do you think about what shiner said about welding D-rings off the platform? His drawing makes it look better.
I can lower the strap but I was assuming that the point in the middle of the wheel would be best to stop it from rolling.
Unless I am not understanding what you mean, the ratcheting end is connected to the trailer. The way I connected it is I took the separate strap and threaded it through the wheel. Connected the hook to the loop. then ran the strap down to the ratchet whcih was connected to the trailer. threaded that through the spindle and cranked it tight. I could remove the loop and use only the hook on the strap and attach to separate axle straps. Would that be better? Why?
What do you think about what shiner said about welding D-rings off the platform? His drawing makes it look better.
First off - what Shiner said is ok, but you are then lengthening the strap -- the shorter the strap the better, IMHO.
Here's something to help you understand what I mean by "ratchet end:"
First off, this is an axle strap. This is what goes through your wheel:
Higher up in the wheel will not make the wheel move less -- the lower you secure the axle strap, the more stable the car will be.
Second, here is the ratchetting tie down that you use to connect the axle strap to your trailer:
The tie down pictured here is in two pieces -- the TOP picture (ratchet end) is what you connect to the trailer, while the other end is what you connect to the axle strap.
In your pictures, the rear tie downs are done the proper way - the ratchetting end of the tie down is connected to the trailer. But the fronts have the ratchetting end connected to the axle strap, and NOT the trailer. That is another reason you are having clearance issues on the front of your car.
Does that make sense to you now?
-Zoltan.
05-09-2008, 02:59 PM
#74
Race Director
Oh - I see that now ...
Dan - you gotta loose that ring thing that acts as an 'attached' axle strap. Life will be must better that way.
Also: are you sure your car has to be so far up to the front of the trailer? Have your measured your tongue weight? It should be about 10% of the actual trailer weight -- in your case, it should be around 500lbs, assuming that your trailer + car ~ 5000 lbs.
-Z
Dan - you gotta loose that ring thing that acts as an 'attached' axle strap. Life will be must better that way.
Also: are you sure your car has to be so far up to the front of the trailer? Have your measured your tongue weight? It should be about 10% of the actual trailer weight -- in your case, it should be around 500lbs, assuming that your trailer + car ~ 5000 lbs.
-Z
05-09-2008, 04:49 PM
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hey jeeper....
just a thought... rich and steve (or is it feigelman)..both trailer their cars.... if i remember correctly... you could probably run over to rich's to see his setup... i think he is heading to the glen also...
or i bet at the next AX, you'd get an earfull of how ... i'd like to see IDACROSS the street to show you how... (ha ha... took me a couple of minutes to get that one!) good piece..
J
just a thought... rich and steve (or is it feigelman)..both trailer their cars.... if i remember correctly... you could probably run over to rich's to see his setup... i think he is heading to the glen also...
or i bet at the next AX, you'd get an earfull of how ... i'd like to see IDACROSS the street to show you how... (ha ha... took me a couple of minutes to get that one!) good piece..
J