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Porsche 951 vs Camaro SS 1999?

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Old 04-17-2002 | 01:25 AM
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I have a question for you guys. Last week, I went playing on a race track near my city and to my surprise, I outaccelerated a manual 6-speeds Camaro SS LS1 1999 on a 20-140 mph straight line sprint. It was very hot outdoor (85-90F with about 80% of humidity), and my car was very slow compared to other colder days, but I still put beetween 1 and 2 carlenghts on him? The guy knew how to drive his beast...

I don't know the exact modifications that the previous owner made to my 951, but how much power/torque and what kind of modifications would it need to pull that way on a 300-310 RWHP car with really poor weather conditions for our 951?

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Old 04-17-2002 | 01:30 AM
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By the way, I know for sure that I have the K26#6 unit and I can't see any manual boost controller...
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The camaro's are porky...3500lbs.

Remove your banjo bolt on the IC pipe, is there a jet in it? If so, you probably have autothority stage II chips. What kinda boost levels you see on the gauge?
Old 04-17-2002 | 01:50 AM
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At about 3500 RPM, I needle is right at 2 BARS on the stock gauge, lowering to about 1.75-1.8 BARS at 6000 RPM. The FBody may be porky, but the SS LS1 still runs 12.95@108 mph according to Mustangs and Fast Fords. The guy didn't believe that a poor man's inline-4 Porsche outaccelerated him.
Old 04-17-2002 | 01:59 AM
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At the very least you're chipped and boosted.

I would install an aftermarket boost gauge to see just how much boost that is. The PO installed the jet in the banjo bolt on my car...I got a nasty surprise when I hooked up an aftermarket gauge..18psi in 3rd and 20psi+ in 4th...(gauge went to 20psi).

You've either got a shimmed wastegate or the jet in the banjo bolt that I mentioned.

With that setup my car ran 60-100 (start at 50, floor it in 3rd gear, start timer when passes 60mph...stop at 100mph...i shifted to 4th) in 6.2 seconds. 1/4 mile around a bend @ 107.5mph says gtech. That was with no launch at all..like 1200rpm...15 sec time..hehe..I figure 109 is reasonable if I launched 'er.
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I also tested my 60-100 mph acceleration times. Launching in fourth gear at 50 mph, I obtained beetween 6.1 and 6.4 seconds.

I also tested my quarter mile specs with a G-Tech Pro. Here is my trap speed:
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[quote]Originally posted by Yan:
<strong>The FBody may be porky, but the SS LS1 still runs 12.95@108 mph according to Mustangs and Fast Fords. </strong><hr></blockquote>

I think you would need a professional dragger and the perfect conditions to obtain a time like that. My Buddy has a 99' SVT cobra that makes about 360hp (crank) and we can't turn a quicker time than a 13.8. I think the low end torque is what is holding them back.

We, on the other hand, have to get the perfect "slipping" to have a nice launch. We need to build boost as soon as possible. And without that immediate torque, we can have the better launch (more frequently)
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I totally agree with you, Luke. A standing start race is all about driver... But being given that the acceleration began on a rolling start at about 20 or 30 mph, the driving skills influenced the results alot less than on a standing start. I still can't believe the results of that straight line acceleration comparison. The Camaro SS LS1 is equal with a Corvette C5 on a quarter mile acceleration (meaning from 0 to about 108 mph). After, the Corvette C5 has a small advantage. I thought that our poor man's Porsche couldn't compete with these "big monsters" anymore? Heh...
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Livin' in "D" town, home of the BIG tres. I really think most of the magizines , like the local Road and Track, are Biases. I wouldn't doubt it if GM slips them some money for a 12.9 1/4mile.

My neighbor just installed a Jon Barret 383 stroker in his 80' Z28. It was rated at 430hp or something. It's still a dog. It must weight two tons and he opted to retain the factory 3 speed 350 turbo tranny. He wont go for a ride in my 951. He claims it would be "un-ethnical" or something. I know he is jst sad.

I took his little brother out for a ride though. When we returned, he went straight to Keith and told him just how sad his car really is.
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I'm driving my son's pristine '97 Z28 this week. 295 HP from the factory, he has the new SS ram air intake, K&N and a cat back system. The car is flat out fast. But, it is a lot heavier than our cars (of course heavier than my little NA) and it redlines at about 5200-5300 rpm. I would still say you're highly modified if you're taking that stock '99 by 2 plus car lengths




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