Gated Shifter?
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Gated Shifter?
So I was fotunate enough to have the opportunity to drive a '92 Ferrari 348 a few weeks back before a friend of a friend put it away in storage for the winter. Needless to say, it was a blast, but it got me thinking...
Anyone know of a way to convert a 944 shifter to the gated style popularly known in Ferrari's? Might be a noob question, but I can't imagine that it's too hard ? Anyone seen this done on any Porsche?
Sure would make a great Christmas present! Thanks in advance for any insight...
Anyone know of a way to convert a 944 shifter to the gated style popularly known in Ferrari's? Might be a noob question, but I can't imagine that it's too hard ? Anyone seen this done on any Porsche?
Sure would make a great Christmas present! Thanks in advance for any insight...
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WHY?!?
Gated shifters came into play primarily due to a poor transaxle design. There is absolutely no need for one in a 944 and they only make it more difficult to shift and look like crap in anything non Lambo/Ferrari (where they are only kept due to historical sake these days).
Gated shifters came into play primarily due to a poor transaxle design. There is absolutely no need for one in a 944 and they only make it more difficult to shift and look like crap in anything non Lambo/Ferrari (where they are only kept due to historical sake these days).
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That is an interesting point, relating the the start of the gated shifter with the arrival of the V8's and boxers. However, I disagree with your comment that they are poorly designed. I admire the fact that I can hook my Ferraris into a computer which in turn sends me data on the transmission from sensors (end-play and such), which I could only measure after disassembling my Porsche transmissions. You may be referring to the need to warm a Ferrari gearbox before you flog it, but that does not equate to a poor design.
Back to the issue at hand, it would be very simple to mill out a gate for your shifter, you'd simply have to measure precisely and make a plastic template. Go for it, because if you don't, maybe I will.
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Benjamin Goldstein
Back to the issue at hand, it would be very simple to mill out a gate for your shifter, you'd simply have to measure precisely and make a plastic template. Go for it, because if you don't, maybe I will.
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Benjamin Goldstein
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Very good point Jason, not sure how I missed that one. Well, none the less, it remains a relatively simple task. You just have to make the pieces you want and cut down the existing lever. This post just brought up an idea I had many years ago, but didn't have enough time or tooling to complete. If you go through with your plans Jaay, you should post some pictures and I'll do the same.
Mike, I raceprep vintage Ferraris for a living, mainly 250's (TDF's SWB's). I consider all of them classic, but the only one I've been in with an exposed gaited shifter is the GTO. The GTO is a thoroughbred racing Ferrari that simply left off the leather boot in exchange for a more durable aluminum gait. Furthermore, you can shift the GTO properly without the gait, it's sole purpose is to stop sizable debris from falling into the linkage box and inhibiting a shift. Oh yeah, and the classic Ferraris had transmissions, not transaxles. Just a little info to mull over.
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Mike, I raceprep vintage Ferraris for a living, mainly 250's (TDF's SWB's). I consider all of them classic, but the only one I've been in with an exposed gaited shifter is the GTO. The GTO is a thoroughbred racing Ferrari that simply left off the leather boot in exchange for a more durable aluminum gait. Furthermore, you can shift the GTO properly without the gait, it's sole purpose is to stop sizable debris from falling into the linkage box and inhibiting a shift. Oh yeah, and the classic Ferraris had transmissions, not transaxles. Just a little info to mull over.
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Benjamin Goldsetein
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I also thought older cars used gated shift panels because without it, the shift pattern was very undefined and hard to find the gears. On the 944, especially with the ubiquitous sloppy shifter syndrome which can develop, a gate panel would make it very difficult to find the gears.
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Good idea but seemingly unnecessary, and unless you painted it the same color as your trim (black, brown, etc) so it didn't stand out as much, I have the feeling it would clash with the entire interior.
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I had not really thought about the clash it may cause in the interior, but I definitely see your point. Maybe a matte black gate with a short black shifter...possibly even a slightly cone shaped shifter rod, thin at the bottom and a bit wider on the top, leading to a more traditional Porsche shift ****...? Definitely might look strange. Another idea is to have more of a plain rod shaped shifter, without a **** on the end. It definitely could be considered 'ricey,' but if done correctly in black, I bet that it wouldn't look half bad. I've got nothing on Photoshop, but both would be interesting concepts.
As far as actually doing it goes, unfortunately you won't see me machining anything anytime soon. I'm a student and don't really know of anywhere or anyone that could help me machine the proper parts...my experience is in wood working, I have never really worked with metal. However, if anyone local wanted to take a day and give it a try, I would be willing to give company at the least!
As far as actually doing it goes, unfortunately you won't see me machining anything anytime soon. I'm a student and don't really know of anywhere or anyone that could help me machine the proper parts...my experience is in wood working, I have never really worked with metal. However, if anyone local wanted to take a day and give it a try, I would be willing to give company at the least!