82-T/A

Hey guys,

There was a 944S in the local Florida Junkyard (in Davie, it's the U-Pull-It). I grabbed the radiator and fan shroud assembly off of it, but I'm wondering if there is anything else I should consider grabbing?

The motor does not have any timing belts on it, so I can't really be sure if the engine is ok or not. Someone already snagged the entire intake, but the cyl head is still there. Is it worth taking? Can I adapt this to my existing 2.5 motor? Or would it require a completely different ECM?


Thanks!

Todd,
2006 Pontiac Solstice
2004 Volkswagen Beetle Convt (Wife's)
2002 Ford Crown Victoria LX-P74
1987 Pontiac Fiero SE / V6 5-Speed
1984 Porsche 944
1981 Pontiac Trans Am WS6
1973 Volkswagen Type-2 Transporter

yellowline

You would want the block, harness, DME, exhaust, and transaxle to make it a worthwhile swap. All of those are different from the NA, or in the case of the harness, too difficult to bother making.

If you just want to make a profit and can prove that the engine runs, it could be worth your time to pull the head or the whole engine.

The turbo guys somehow adapt the DOHC head to an 8V block, but much was made at the S introduction in 87 that the heads would not interchange- slightly different cooling passages.

Techno Duck

Brake bias valve..pretty sure it has the 5/33 bias valve on it..which is considered a mild upgrade for 944 Turbo's (more rear brake bias).

82-T/A

Oh well, I don't really have enough time with work right now to sell stuff on eBay. But if anyone wants those parts, they are in the U-PULL-IT in Davie, Florida.

Take I-95 to 5-95 in Broward County. Take 5-95 WEST to 441 SOUTH. Drive 1 mile, it's on the right-hand-side. Big yellow building with red lettering.


Todd,
2006 Pontiac Solstice
2004 Volkswagen Beetle Convt (Wife's)
2002 Ford Crown Victoria LX-P74
1987 Pontiac Fiero SE / V6 5-Speed
1984 Porsche 944
1981 Pontiac Trans Am WS6
1973 Volkswagen Type-2 Transporter

V2Rocket

what colors the interior, if any?

82-T/A

There were actually two 944s there. The 944S had the light beige interior with the light colored leather seats and dark brown dash and upper door panels.

The OTHER 944 had an all black interior, with some pretty decent Recaro seats in them. That 944 was an 83-85, not sure exactly what year, but it had an ECM in it so I snagged that.

Todd,
2006 Pontiac Solstice
2004 Volkswagen Beetle Convt (Wife's)
2002 Ford Crown Victoria LX-P74
1987 Pontiac Fiero SE / V6 5-Speed
1984 Porsche 944
1981 Pontiac Trans Am WS6
1973 Volkswagen Type-2 Transporter

V2Rocket

time to revive that "how do i upgrade my interior" thread..haha

how good condition was the S in? and if its pretty good, how much would you want for dash/doors/carpet/console?

J Berk

aren't the 'S' heads worth big bucks? Thought they were really hard to find without a broken tensioner mount or something????

potent951turbo

There is a 944S in a junkyard near me that I saw a couple of years ago. It had a full engine that had never been touched, I wish I had gotten it for someone else that could have used it so it didn't just sit there rotting.

Raceboy

S 16v head is bolt-on to 2.5liter block. Only S2/968 16v head cooling passages are different that 2.5 block.

V2Rocket

oh shoot...is it really?

82-T/A

Hmm... maybe I'll go back and pick it up on Sunday.

I still wouldn't be able to easily just bolt it up though, right? And I'd probably need the whole intake and everything (the intake ports looked different too).


Thanks,

Todd,
2006 Pontiac Solstice
2004 Volkswagen Beetle Convt (Wife's)
2002 Ford Crown Victoria LX-P74
1987 Pontiac Fiero SE / V6 5-Speed
1984 Porsche 944
1981 Pontiac Trans Am WS6
1973 Volkswagen Type-2 Transporter

yellowline

NA exhaust is also slightly different from an S, but enough to not work- we're talking millimeters.

As for value, I sold a complete 60,000 mile 944S engine with a 10,000 mile spring center clutch on it for $1000+freight. Someone valued it at $1800+, but it's only worth that if someone broke a belt and really wants a new engine.

Raceboy

It requires ECU, ECU requires S flywheel (60-2 trigger arrangement vs 130+1 on NA), all the sensors etc. NOT worth it with original ECU.

But if you could get me an exaust cam from that car, I'd be grateful

inactiveuser92616

The head is worth as much money as the car, if the cams are in good shape. ~$1000-$1500 if you seperate it apart.

To convert an 8V car:
Head, with everything above the headgasket attached.
That means full intake tract including filter box, exhaust down the the catalytic.
Pistons
Anything that touches the timing belt (water pump may be the same)
Engine wiring harness
Engine computer
Ignition module FL fender, a part of the wiring harness
gauges are slightly different but compatible
trans are different but compatible
Fuel rail with injectors, damper, regulator
Flywheel as mentioned
all sensors

In summary, not worth it if you want bang for the buck. If you are building to a set of rules, specific class, or obscure goal, go for it.