My car caught fire last night!!
#46
What argue that ****! Dont be an ******* about it because that usually gets people defensive and provacative.
What I did. I did what you did and got a whole bunch of stuff together and told them the value of it. That didnt help much.
What you need to do is come up with a number in your head and stick by it.
In my case, I thought 6000 and I get to keep the car was fair value. So I just talked to them nicely and reminded them what fair market value is. Then you have to shoot a number higher than what you want. I said 6800. Then they will say no, let me put you on hold, blah blah blah.
Then you say "Look lets just get what is fair for the car, I dont want to waste any more of your time. I think 6000 is a really fair asking price given the condition of the car. Unfortuneatly i cant settle for lower than that or I will be at a loss'
Theyll give in. They dont want to go to court and pay lawyer fees. It will cost them more in lawyer fees and time than it would to write a check for 1-2K more than they want to give you.
What I did. I did what you did and got a whole bunch of stuff together and told them the value of it. That didnt help much.
What you need to do is come up with a number in your head and stick by it.
In my case, I thought 6000 and I get to keep the car was fair value. So I just talked to them nicely and reminded them what fair market value is. Then you have to shoot a number higher than what you want. I said 6800. Then they will say no, let me put you on hold, blah blah blah.
Then you say "Look lets just get what is fair for the car, I dont want to waste any more of your time. I think 6000 is a really fair asking price given the condition of the car. Unfortuneatly i cant settle for lower than that or I will be at a loss'
Theyll give in. They dont want to go to court and pay lawyer fees. It will cost them more in lawyer fees and time than it would to write a check for 1-2K more than they want to give you.
I told him the NADA book is all dandy but the market dictates what these cars are selling for. I cannot just have my pick of $7300 944S2's. Then he said that he had documentation stating that there were compariable examples for sale ~150mi from my house for ~$7000. I replied that I would love to see that paperwork. The rep then asked me what I thought was a fair price (as TomR stated a FMV (fair market value)) I had said $8500 given the 121,000 miles. I said I am not trying to rip anyone off, but I will not take a hosing on this car that I had just owned for 4 weeks.
I also called my insurance agent and am having him contact my claim rep, and get a copy of all the paperwork including the PCA evaluation for him to look at. My agent told me that he was fighting for 3 other individuals (BMW owners) that are getting low evaluations on thier cars as well. Luckily, my insurance agent is a car guy (BMW 840i) and knows that I will take ALL my business elsewhere.
I keep in mind that insuracnce companies are in buiness to make money, and the CCC Market Research company they have evaluate thier claims has to make them money or otherwise the insurance companies look elsewhere to someone who can. Supposidly State Farm, Allstate, and Farmers (who I have) all use this research company for all their claims.
Thank you for the TOMR link, I will compile some additional research for next time I go to bat.
And ROCK thank you for your words. I will keep on the power of words and reason on my side.
#47
Oh here is an AutoTrader link for ANY distance search for 944's 1989+ for $7500.
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/search...=1196341545421
And one is not even a real S2!!
It is a modded 944 with a 968 engine.
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/search...=1196341545421
And one is not even a real S2!!
It is a modded 944 with a 968 engine.
#49
Heard back from my insurance agent yesterday and he is set on the $7300 price as well. By all means it could be worse, but damn nation what is an extra $1500 to settle a claim, I did not set the car on fire, I did not ask for it.
I looked on Cars. com and there was a 1990 944S2 w/ 168,000mi for $8750.
Another 1990 944S2 w/ 147,000mi for $5900.
I assigned a 10-cents per mile value for each mile +/- so which brought the car above up to $8500 when equal to mine with 122,000 miles.
There was another on Hemmings Classifieds (only on actually) w/ 130,000 miles for $8500.
Two days ago when I talked with my claim rep asked me what I thought was a fair price I told him $8500!
And there that very same figure keeps poppiing up!!!
Oh and none of these are even in the same region as where I live so I am dying to find out where all these 944S2's are for sale 150miles from my house!!
(according to my claim reps report).
As stated before they seem to hold the NADA and Kelly Blue Book as the end all holy gospel for price evaluations and damn everything else.
I am going to check out Autoloss.com for some much needed help.
http://www.appraisalgroupofamerica.com
I looked on Cars. com and there was a 1990 944S2 w/ 168,000mi for $8750.
Another 1990 944S2 w/ 147,000mi for $5900.
I assigned a 10-cents per mile value for each mile +/- so which brought the car above up to $8500 when equal to mine with 122,000 miles.
There was another on Hemmings Classifieds (only on actually) w/ 130,000 miles for $8500.
Two days ago when I talked with my claim rep asked me what I thought was a fair price I told him $8500!
And there that very same figure keeps poppiing up!!!
Oh and none of these are even in the same region as where I live so I am dying to find out where all these 944S2's are for sale 150miles from my house!!
(according to my claim reps report).
As stated before they seem to hold the NADA and Kelly Blue Book as the end all holy gospel for price evaluations and damn everything else.
I am going to check out Autoloss.com for some much needed help.
http://www.appraisalgroupofamerica.com