Knock knock... who's there? Rod.
#1
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Update: Knock knock... who's there? Rod. Rod who? Rod #2!
So,
I am pretty sure that I have rod knock.
For the past week my car has sounded like it has an exhaust leak, making a loudish sound upon acceleration or under high load.
Today while filling pulling into the gas station, my oil pressure dipped below 2 bar briefly and threw the light, but came right back. Drove home, and on the highway while cruising felt a sudden loss of power. Pulled onto my own road and a horrible rattling sound started going, nursed it the mile home. Now it sounds like a diesel without a muffler, even at idle.
Rod knock?
It also started pissing coolant everywhere. Just last week I lost the radiator hose from the alt pulley cutting it, so ran a little hot. I do not know if they are related or a string of bad luck. After this repair is when I started hearing the "exhaust leak". I don't know if this is when it began or just when I tuned in.
I am pretty sure that I have rod knock.
For the past week my car has sounded like it has an exhaust leak, making a loudish sound upon acceleration or under high load.
Today while filling pulling into the gas station, my oil pressure dipped below 2 bar briefly and threw the light, but came right back. Drove home, and on the highway while cruising felt a sudden loss of power. Pulled onto my own road and a horrible rattling sound started going, nursed it the mile home. Now it sounds like a diesel without a muffler, even at idle.
Rod knock?
It also started pissing coolant everywhere. Just last week I lost the radiator hose from the alt pulley cutting it, so ran a little hot. I do not know if they are related or a string of bad luck. After this repair is when I started hearing the "exhaust leak". I don't know if this is when it began or just when I tuned in.
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Originally Posted by xsboost90
when you pulled into the gas station and your oil pressure dropped, did you check the oil???
#5
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Well it may be time to open her up (literally). If you do drive her again make sure to bring your camera and record this noise for us. Knock is said to sound like shaking a can full of coins.
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Yup, sounds like a rod knock (assuming nothing is hitting any of your belts or pulleys), and it may have had something to do with your engine overheating (although that wasn't the entire cause). I've seen several cases of 944 race cars overheating and then developing a rod knock. Overheating coolant = overheating oil = thin oil that doesn't protect very well. Your cooling system issues aren't the cause of the rod knock though... they just accelerated the wear.
A new set of rod bearings is only $60, so get yourself an engine hoist or support then drop the oil pan and swap them out. You can do it in a day if you have everything you need. With any luck, you wont have beaten up your crank journals too much, otherwise you'll need to pull the motor and have some machine work done.
A new set of rod bearings is only $60, so get yourself an engine hoist or support then drop the oil pan and swap them out. You can do it in a day if you have everything you need. With any luck, you wont have beaten up your crank journals too much, otherwise you'll need to pull the motor and have some machine work done.
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I hate to be a downer but that final death gasp of spewing coolant is a very bad sign. The rod will be toasted, the crank will need to be turned, and the overheating might have caused hydrolock when the HG went. The bad rod bearing I pulled yesterday was not encouraging at all but at least the HG never went. The rod was bent bad, the bearing was gone, and the crank journal lost some shoulder metal, mine is probably nothing more than anchor material now. This one was shut off at the first knocking sound but it was at 5500 rpm when it went. Low oil level by the PO was to blame. As people will say, anything can be fixed.
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YUK!
I just finished a top-end overhaul and general freshening up of my mom's 968 today (it's been parked for 2 months). And I heard a clicking. I thought it was the lifters still waiting patiently for oil. Then I realized it was more like a ticking, so it must be an exhaust leak. Then later my dad mentioned it sounded like knocking. I really hope he's wrong.
I hope your noise ends up being something less severe as well.
I just finished a top-end overhaul and general freshening up of my mom's 968 today (it's been parked for 2 months). And I heard a clicking. I thought it was the lifters still waiting patiently for oil. Then I realized it was more like a ticking, so it must be an exhaust leak. Then later my dad mentioned it sounded like knocking. I really hope he's wrong.
I hope your noise ends up being something less severe as well.
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Anyone have a link to a rod bearing replacement how-to? Also, what's the deal with knowing whether or not you need the "oversize" rod bearings also available? I think I saw them on paragon or pelicanparts...if it is as simple as take off the oil pan (are there any obstructions?) then unbolt and replace the rod bearings, then I might consider doing this before anything gets destroyed.
I have had a little bit of metal in my oil before, and definitely had the sudden dip in oil pressure one hot day. What's the easiest way to detect a bad HG? My oil and coolant seem untainted by each other and I have new oil cooler seals.
I have had a little bit of metal in my oil before, and definitely had the sudden dip in oil pressure one hot day. What's the easiest way to detect a bad HG? My oil and coolant seem untainted by each other and I have new oil cooler seals.
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Originally Posted by knfeparty
Anyone have a link to a rod bearing replacement how-to? Also, what's the deal with knowing whether or not you need the "oversize" rod bearings also available? I think I saw them on paragon or pelicanparts...if it is as simple as take off the oil pan (are there any obstructions?) then unbolt and replace the rod bearings, then I might consider doing this before anything gets destroyed.
I have had a little bit of metal in my oil before, and definitely had the sudden dip in oil pressure one hot day. What's the easiest way to detect a bad HG? My oil and coolant seem untainted by each other and I have new oil cooler seals.
I have had a little bit of metal in my oil before, and definitely had the sudden dip in oil pressure one hot day. What's the easiest way to detect a bad HG? My oil and coolant seem untainted by each other and I have new oil cooler seals.
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Originally Posted by FRporscheman
YUK!
I just finished a top-end overhaul and general freshening up of my mom's 968 today (it's been parked for 2 months). And I heard a clicking. I thought it was the lifters still waiting patiently for oil. Then I realized it was more like a ticking, so it must be an exhaust leak. Then later my dad mentioned it sounded like knocking. I really hope he's wrong.
I hope your noise ends up being something less severe as well.
I just finished a top-end overhaul and general freshening up of my mom's 968 today (it's been parked for 2 months). And I heard a clicking. I thought it was the lifters still waiting patiently for oil. Then I realized it was more like a ticking, so it must be an exhaust leak. Then later my dad mentioned it sounded like knocking. I really hope he's wrong.
I hope your noise ends up being something less severe as well.
I think this is a problem with 16V cars- hopefully it's the same with your 968.
#13
Drifting
Ahh, you guys reeeeally scare me with all of these different noises and what not. I don't like it at all!
My S2 makes lots of noises, and some can be traced to lifters/injectors/ and the chain tensioner. What scares me is my new noise when the motor is cold that goes away when warm. I think it's just my balance belt idler pulley because before I tensioned it, the belt didn't touch...now it does. This would explain why the noise is new.
Sorry to hear about this man!
My S2 makes lots of noises, and some can be traced to lifters/injectors/ and the chain tensioner. What scares me is my new noise when the motor is cold that goes away when warm. I think it's just my balance belt idler pulley because before I tensioned it, the belt didn't touch...now it does. This would explain why the noise is new.
Sorry to hear about this man!
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Drifting
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Got the oil drained out, there were some copper colored metal grains remaining in the drain pan. These were about the size of medium-grind pepper, a light sprinkling of them. Another sign that the bearing has left.