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Old 04-08-2007, 09:26 PM
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Default Thomas Knight E-Supercharger?

A friend of mine showed me this and I am a very skeptical about it, I can't see how it would make 100hp like they said it did in a ranger. And the $1600 price tag seems a bit crazy too.

Anyone used one before? Do they really work that well?
Old 04-08-2007, 10:41 PM
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I know a guy that used to run one on his Escort GT (ripdotcom) He owns a 924S now, not sure if he's on Rennlist though. He did a lot of prototype work for Thomas Knight and therefore got the stuff at a deep discount. It did work and worked surprisingly well. He put it on the same level as nitrous, it's just a tempory thing that you don't use that often. Just for a run every now and then. He liked it since he got it discounted, but he wasn't sure he would ever spend the true price on it.
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By E-supercharger do you mean "electric?" Because it's a crock of bull if that's what it means.

Think of it this way: to get an electronic pump to flow enough air to make 100hp worth of gains at all, the power output of the compressor would require so much electricity you'd drain your battery in a heartbeat. It's retarded.

For example, the average centrifugal supercharger can produce ~40hp of power to the air, which is ~30 kW. Now, with our 12V power supply, this would mean that to produce a similar power output by the e-charger (~30 kW), we'd need over 2500 amps! Ridiculous. An amp is a monstrous quantity; resistance-coil type ovens going well over 2000 C rarely see more than 500 amps.
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That's alot of double-A's.
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Also, if it was worth a damn, you'd see the racing industry getting its hands wet with this "new technology."

...F1 was implementing technology in the early '80's that has only just begun to grace production cars.


**edit** I just realized I came across as a bit of an *******, which was not my intent...didn't mean to offend!
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I thought that Thomas Knight was the guy running the charger off of the back of the alternator??? He has some seperate battery system if I remember right. These don't run all time either. Alas there ain't no free lunch. These work I am told but only in the way they were designed to work which is not like a turbo working all the time.

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They work just like nitrous. They have their own battery system. They are good for like a few 15 sec runs and then they are recharged off the alternator i believe.
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Originally Posted by ausgeflippt951
By E-supercharger do you mean "electric?" Because it's a crock of bull if that's what it means.

Think of it this way: to get an electronic pump to flow enough air to make 100hp worth of gains at all, the power output of the compressor would require so much electricity you'd drain your battery in a heartbeat. It's retarded.

For example, the average centrifugal supercharger can produce ~40hp of power to the air, which is ~30 kW. Now, with our 12V power supply, this would mean that to produce a similar power output by the e-charger (~30 kW), we'd need over 2500 amps! Ridiculous. An amp is a monstrous quantity; resistance-coil type ovens going well over 2000 C rarely see more than 500 amps.
Sorry i have to chime in on this note...
Virtually all electric superchargers are Crap/Fake Knock Offs

HOWEVER, The Thomas Knight E-supercharger is The REAL DEAL, It IS the ONLY Legitimate & Patented Electric Supercharger...

However, the Cost to Gain Ratio does not really justify it at the moment.. Which is why you don't see it implemented all over the place

Here's some literature for you>
http://www.turbomagazine.com/tech/04..._supercharger/
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wonder if you could set it up to run on a hybrid and use the hybrids batery... hmm 250whp prius= ultimate sleeper
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I was thinking about that yesterday...put some super-high torque eldctric motor on it, more battery packs, and put the TT Supra engine in there too.
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Ok, I owe it to the gang to provide some feedback...so here it is;

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2217079

See my page 6.. in the process of moving so I won't be able to answer to many emails but I will keep my web page updated as best I can for the next few weeks....
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I'd like to see a dyno on this.
Old 06-11-2007, 02:50 AM
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I dont get why there isnt enough room for the headlight bar to turn. It looks like there is enough room.
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An alternator-driven SC???
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Late to the party, V2?


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