Timing chain instead of a belt. Would it be possible?
06-28-2007, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Mongo
It would cost MORE than the car is worth to convert it to a chain.
06-29-2007, 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by MichelleJD
Forgot to add:
They cured the water pump issue by mounting it on the backside (actually, left side as the engine is transverse mounted) and running it off of the camshaft.
They cured the water pump issue by mounting it on the backside (actually, left side as the engine is transverse mounted) and running it off of the camshaft.
06-29-2007, 04:53 PM
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06-29-2007, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by gt37vgt
the increased enertia of the chain is a horror show i've never seen a chain that long when you lift your foot of the gas often the cam wont want to slow as quick as the crank and the enertia of the chain is a real issue in it self destructing why ferrari whet single row chain over double . use your time and effort getting generous valve reliefs in the pistons so its no problem breaking the belt and get a gates belt heaps better than the conticrap oem
Originally Posted by V2Rocket_aka944
+1. The chain would kill throttle response.
9300 RPM.
Never needs replacement.
Very good throttle response.
Runs a much more sophisticated valve train.
Only downside: it's louder.
Now, as to swapping-- that's a different story. If you must have a timing chain it would be easiest to get a different car. I would bet that it would also be easier to swap in an engine (such as an F20C) then to try to cobble together a timing chain onto an engine built for a belt.
06-29-2007, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by MyBlackCar
Does this mean if someone did a swap using this engine that it would still be "Porsche"?
Be my guest.
06-29-2007, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by teamking
The S2000 has a timing chain.
9300 RPM.
Never needs replacement.
Very good throttle response.
Runs a much more sophisticated valve train.
Only downside: it's louder.
Now, as to swapping-- that's a different story. If you must have a timing chain it would be easiest to get a different car. I would bet that it would also be easier to swap in an engine (such as an F20C) then to try to cobble together a timing chain onto an engine built for a belt.
9300 RPM.
Never needs replacement.
Very good throttle response.
Runs a much more sophisticated valve train.
Only downside: it's louder.
Now, as to swapping-- that's a different story. If you must have a timing chain it would be easiest to get a different car. I would bet that it would also be easier to swap in an engine (such as an F20C) then to try to cobble together a timing chain onto an engine built for a belt.
06-29-2007, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by MyBlackCar
Does this mean if someone did a swap using this engine that it would still be "Porsche"?
06-29-2007, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by V2Rocket_aka944
It's also an engine designed for a timing chain, and the chain itself probably is designed to be light.
Originally Posted by V2Rocket_aka944
And the motor makes 90 more HP than the NA motor, which gives it the needed oomph to make that metal fly around 9300 times a minute.
I was only trying to make the point that timing chains are superior in most regards to belts, except for NVH. I haven't the foggiest notion of what your point was.
06-29-2007, 07:01 PM
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I dont think A chain would be that bad at all, Alot of the newToyota/lexus and others are all going chain. Its really not as bad as you al think it is. It would not suck that much power down to be that noticable.
Here is a idea, WHy not just not run a belt or a chain, Get a electric waterpump and some electric sylinoids to run the valves ;-) I know crazy, But it is the new technology that will soon be here
Here is a idea, WHy not just not run a belt or a chain, Get a electric waterpump and some electric sylinoids to run the valves ;-) I know crazy, But it is the new technology that will soon be here