spazegun2213

Alright, so I'm looking into camber plates for the race car. However, there are so many out there that I'm looking for the pros and cons to each type. So also say that only stock or 2.5 or 2.25 springs work.

So i figure I would ask the forum (yea, I'm on a roll today with questions) for their observations.

thanks guys!

luckett

Look like I'm chasing your threads tonight!!!

I have the ground control plates that are sold by paragon and have not had any negative issues with them. They reduce suspension travel by a bit relative to the OEM shock mounts, but I have not experienced any problems with the shocks hitting the bump rubbers. I have 350# front springs and koni yellows.

shiners780

If you are setting the car up for racing, check with your sanctioning bodies. I don't think camber plates are allowed in PCA Club Racing, or if they are they may need to be pinned. I may be wrong, but check before spending the money.

I have the Ground Control plates. They installed easily, and hold their settings during hard track use.

spazegun2213

This car is being setup for the 944 cup, so they are legal.

M758

in 944 cup they if you run PCA stock specs they need to be pinned. Otherwise run ITS specs and they are free. Or run 100lbs penalty they are free.
SP1 they are legal


I run paragon's ground control plates. They have worked flawlessly for over 4 years and 57 races.

spazegun2213

ok, so what is this "pinned" style plates?

M758

Pinned means they are locked in position such that you gain no additional camber from the stock adjustment. THe plate would be pinned at zero so all the camber you would get is from the stock bolts on strut.

Given that they turn into nice strut mounts rather than true camber plates. Most of the time you can get -2.5 deg with the stock adjustment. I run 3.5 with my plates. I ran 3.25 for a bit, but at 3.5 the car handles much better at least to me.

spazegun2213

Thanks!

luckett

How is your tire wear running -3.5? I ran -3.5 for a while and was getting a higher rate of wear on insides and backed it off a bit to even out the wear. This was on 17" 225s.

M758

Well my car gets a little bit of inside wear, but since it is track only and I rotate the tires after each track day I get pretty even tire wear all across the board. I changed from 3.5 to 3.25 to get better braking, but it ended hurting my full throttle corner exit performance more than it helped braking.

Most of the time you get rapid inside wear is due to toe rather than camber itself.

smlporsche

I run the Leda camber plates in conjunction with their struts. It is my understanding that with the spherical bearings there is no increase in ride height (or loss of shock travel when set back to original height).
They are a bit pricey but worth it IMHO.

Z-man

I have the Racer's Edge camber plates in my car. Between those and the Kokeln A-arms, I could probably slam my camber to something like -40 degrees, if I wanted to! (The Kokeln a-arms have a monoball adjustable end that really makes it easy to adjust camber settings) As such, I run a very mild -2.5 degrees of camber.

The reason I went with the camber plates was because the rubber stop on top of the struts was so worn, it needed replacement.

Keep in mind that camber plates may stiffen the car a bit more up front - so you may have a little more understeer than before...

Just my $0.42,
-Z-man.

xsboost90

im looking at the paragon-products camber plates- not sure what brand they are but they are not the racers edge ones- dont think i'll have to worry about loosing alittle clearance w/ coilovers and 400lb springs though..

genikz

They are made by Ground Control, or at least they are IDENTICAL to the GC units.

500

Yes, you must be right, I bought the units from Paragon and they had "Ground Control" stenciled right on them. I have not got to this part of the project yet, but I noticed in trial assembling the Konis to the camber places, there appeared to only be enough thread for the nut at the top of the strut (as opposed to nut and lockwasher). Does anyone recall if they used both the nut and washer or just the nut?