ACG

The 86 951 is currently in the shop.....

The shop commented that there is a fuel leak from the fuel lines running across the intake manifold. They estimate the repair runs $500!

** This is baffling to me as the SAME shop replaced the fuel hose at the pressure damper in 2003. Their charges were $55.25 parts and $22.50 labor.

WOULD SUCH A REPAIR ACTUALLY RUN $500? I would appreciate some guidance from everyone. Thanks.


They are mostly likly going to change to the stock rubber hose. I am wondering if I should take the opportunity to switch over to the Lindsey steel braided lines:

http://www.lindseyracing.com/Merchan...=944FUELLLINES


P/S.
I would love to do the work myself. However, I am constantly travelling and DIY is not an option for me for the next couple of years.

Lorax

What lines run across the intake manifold?? There are only 3 fuel lines in the engine bay.

ACG

That is my exact point. Would it cost $500 to replace 1, 2 or all of the 3 lines? Any thoughts from anyone?

Lorax

rennbays kit for the two big ones is like 70 bucks, and about the same for the damper to rail. I just did the rennbay kit, and i would say that SS is overkill unless you just want to look pretty.


I still dont get what hes saying about lines over the maifold, there arent any.

944Fest (aka Dan P)

I think you mean the two fuel lines that run across above the exhaust manifold. They are subject to a lot of heat and pressure, and a leak there is catastrophic. Too many of our brother's cars have fallen victim to this. It is not a easy job to change them, as fatory mated compression fittings (is that the right word?) need to be hack sawed off. Nobody likes sawing on fuel lines, sparks are a slight problem. Could I imagine a dealer allocating 3 hours for this at $120 and hour and $100+ in parts? Certainly. Could an experienced wrench do it in under 1 hr? yep!
It sure does sound steep. It will be interesting to see how they break down the costs.

Lorax

It took me half an hour, some big bolts to plug the lines (after I let some fuel out, of course) and some simple dremel work. Sounds scary around fuel lines, but if you have half of a steady hand then its a breeze.

Cut a little

Rotate the fitting

Cut some more

Repeat.

Do this until there is a ring cut around the center of the fitting, then do the same rotating process with a screrwdriver prying up the side of the fitting facing the hard line.

Get some visegrips, twist and pull: Voila!

Just make sure you dont cut through to the actual hard line, though I cant see anyone with an hour behind a dremel doing this.

Lorax

If you are interested in doing it I can show you pictures of how I cut the fittings.

ACG

Lorax, this would be great. I would love to see the pics and keep them for future reference.

DAN P. AND LORAX:
Unfortunately, I am currently working in Singapore, and the car is in Oregon. The shop will have to fix the fuel hose leak this time instead of me doing it myself. Your info is useful for me to discuss lowering the $500 quote with the shop. Thanks for the info!!

Lorax

Ill dig up those old fittings for pics tomarrow, but im going to bed right now. I knew I would need them for something!

black944 turbo

Tell them to replace them with the lindsey lines and it shouldn't cost more than 150-200. If they are replacing the factory lines then I could see it costing that.

xsboost90

they shouldnt run across the intake though- come up on the right side and go right to the fuel rail- pretty easy to replace yourself- i would just do that...

jwlester

He's in singapore. Have the care towed back to the place of residence and do it yourself when you get back in. You would still save money. AAA anyone close?

Cheers, Josh

MyBlackCar

Is the rubber portion or metal portion of the line damaged? If it is the rubber, cut off the compression fitting and t-clamp a new rubber line. Don't cut into the metal line if you do this.

ACG

I am in a little bit of a fix......

My home and car is in the States. I am currently working on assignment in Singapore.

I originally brought the car to the shop (in the States) to get some bottom-end work done. It was not completed before I had to leave the States for Singapore. So, I left the car with the shop. My buddy can pick the car up for me from the shop, and store it in his home when I am away.

As you now know, the shop encountered the fuel hose problem.

I need to get her running so that we can verify the quality of work done to the bottom-end. So, the fuel leak has to be fixed at the shop. Looks like I am going to be stuck with the extra $500 cost if the shop is not willing to re-consider their original estimate. (By the way, they quoted $100 to replace the hood struts).

What a dilemma huh?

black944 turbo

You need to find yourself a new shop asap. $100 for labor on hood struts is absolutely unrealistic. It takes 15 minutes tops.