I'm not sure if I like manual steering.
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After putting the car back together, I wanted to try leaving hte PS pump belt off to get a feel for manual steering. I know several people have capped the lines and retained the PS rack but without the pump and lines.
I'm not sure I like it. Slow speed effort is off the charts but once moving it's not too bad. I kind like it is moving above 30 mph but I doubt I'd keep it on a street car that has to negotiate parking lots.
Maybee I should investigate a turbo with an actual manual rack with the different ratios.....Any volunteers?
I'm not sure I like it. Slow speed effort is off the charts but once moving it's not too bad. I kind like it is moving above 30 mph but I doubt I'd keep it on a street car that has to negotiate parking lots.
Maybee I should investigate a turbo with an actual manual rack with the different ratios.....Any volunteers?
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Do you still have the PS fluid in there? If so, that'll make it much harder to turn the wheel because you have to force the fluid around. It's a completely different feel than draining/capping the system.
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When I first bought my car it had been converted to a full manual rack. The parking lot effort overrode any highway-speed advantages for me. I converted back to a PS system. My feeling is that it's only worthwhile for a track-only car or a car that sees significant amounts of DE's. 'nuff said!
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Streck,
As a father you need all the exercise you can get. Trust me on this one. Man up and view the low speed effort as a cheap workout!![Wink](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
I love manual steering. I personally view it as a big advantage, at least on the track.
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As a father you need all the exercise you can get. Trust me on this one. Man up and view the low speed effort as a cheap workout!
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I love manual steering. I personally view it as a big advantage, at least on the track.
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Originally Posted by TD in DC
Streck,
As a father you need all the exercise you can get. Trust me on this one. Man up and view the low speed effort as a cheap workout!![Wink](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
I love manual steering. I personally view it as a big advantage, at least on the track.
TD
As a father you need all the exercise you can get. Trust me on this one. Man up and view the low speed effort as a cheap workout!
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I love manual steering. I personally view it as a big advantage, at least on the track.
TD
I had that thought as well....
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Thought that removing the fluid from a PS rack and capping it would damage the ring/pinion system and that fluid retention was necessary for lubrication.
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I had that thought as well....
Funny.
Thought that removing the fluid from a PS rack and capping it would damage the ring/pinion system and that fluid retention was necessary for lubrication.
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Thought that removing the fluid from a PS rack and capping it would damage the ring/pinion system and that fluid retention was necessary for lubrication.
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I've got a stock manual steering 83 NA and there's no way I'd trade it for power steering- There's no comparison to how 'tight' the car feels when turning.
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This won't be a permanant move. I was just checking it out.
Speaking of steering, I've been driving the Mustang and an old T-bird while working on the 951. Yesterday while driving home from work, I started getting some vibration through the steering wheel and immediatly became concerned. What did I do wrong? Did I not torques the steering rack correctly? What's about to fall off? Will I make it home?
Then it hit me. That's feedback! I can actually feel the road.... D'OH!
Speaking of steering, I've been driving the Mustang and an old T-bird while working on the 951. Yesterday while driving home from work, I started getting some vibration through the steering wheel and immediatly became concerned. What did I do wrong? Did I not torques the steering rack correctly? What's about to fall off? Will I make it home?
Then it hit me. That's feedback! I can actually feel the road.... D'OH!
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Yeah, I have had a disabled but not drained PS rack and it sucks. A "real" manual rack is great though - I wish I could have one on all my cars.
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yeah...but with the REAL manual rack..you better HOLD ON. the wheel has snapped out of my hand before. almost put me into a pole at a gas station once.
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I've never driven a manual 944, but I loved it in the two VWs I owned, along with the 911s my dad had. I miss it.
Although for daily driving purposes I don't mind power steering. ![Smilie](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
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Originally Posted by Campeck
yeah...but with the REAL manual rack..you better HOLD ON. the wheel has snapped out of my hand before. almost put me into a pole at a gas station once.
That wouldn't hapen if you put your belt covers on.
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This coming from the guy who is currently running coverless. I'll post pics tonight.
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Originally Posted by Campeck
yeah...but with the REAL manual rack..you better HOLD ON. the wheel has snapped out of my hand before. almost put me into a pole at a gas station once.
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Is this just a 944 thing or something? I've never had any of those problems in the several hundred thousand miles I've spent driving cars with manual steering.
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