968 engine swap
#16
Originally Posted by Matt Marks
944J - I think you're wrong. 944 NA brakes are marginal at best for anything more than commuting. (try 4 or 5 hard stops in a row from say - 60 to 20) Adding 80 HP doesn't help. There's a reason that the Turbo cars got bigger brakes and that the Turbo S and 968 got even bigger (M030) ones.
While not wanting to start a separate debate on the merits of NA braking power - I think you should go with the collective experience of those who've done the engine swap and realize that the first thing they need to do is upgrade the brakes.
Not an immediate need, but a close second as soon as the bank account recovers.
While not wanting to start a separate debate on the merits of NA braking power - I think you should go with the collective experience of those who've done the engine swap and realize that the first thing they need to do is upgrade the brakes.
Not an immediate need, but a close second as soon as the bank account recovers.
That having been said, how much faster in speed and acceleration is a 944/924 with a 968 engine than one with a stock engine. From what I know a 968 will take a car to 120 but so would my stock 944na. The 968 is just roughly 25% faster in all areas.
I also want bigger brakes, but I also like to get past the hype and know exactly how much "better for me" $3,000 brakes are.
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Here is one thread talking about this:
https://rennlist.com/forums/924-931-944-951-968-forum/56890-brakes.html
https://rennlist.com/forums/924-931-944-951-968-forum/56890-brakes.html
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Drifting
it depends highly on the usage. For street use in a non mountainous area, NA brakes are great. I took mine to the track though, and they overheated very badly within 11 laps of Second Creek Raceway (RIP second creek)
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There really is a lot of info if you search for "968 engine swap", but you do have to go through a lot of digging as well. Matt's website is an excellent write-up. Other tricky bits to worry about -- how to get the exhaust to bolt up, electrical harness matchup nightmare, and what to do for the air filter.
You'll open up a Pandora's box if you do this. You won't *need* upgraded brakes, but you will *want* them. You won't *need* better suspension, but you will *want* it. You won't *need* stronger tranny, but you will *want* it (actually, I take the last one back -- you'll need a stronger tranny). These days, I'm thinking, "I need a supercharger...."
Costwise, it will most likely be cheaper to buy a 968 outright -- but what's the fun in that? The expense (and time spent) won't seem as bad if the old motor is already out, you want something unusual (lightweight or Q-car), and you like projects.
You'll open up a Pandora's box if you do this. You won't *need* upgraded brakes, but you will *want* them. You won't *need* better suspension, but you will *want* it. You won't *need* stronger tranny, but you will *want* it (actually, I take the last one back -- you'll need a stronger tranny). These days, I'm thinking, "I need a supercharger...."
Costwise, it will most likely be cheaper to buy a 968 outright -- but what's the fun in that? The expense (and time spent) won't seem as bad if the old motor is already out, you want something unusual (lightweight or Q-car), and you like projects.