Please Help! The worst plugs I've ever seen
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XSboost hit the nail on the head . I used to have a 944S with this exact problem. You are right , if a car leaked this much oil into the combustion chamber it would never run .... probably because you would have so much smoke behind you the guy behind would rear end you :-). Now look at those pics again really carefully. The combustion point of the plugs is exactly as it should be. tan , dry .. I bet this car runs just fine. The valve cover gasket is leaking and the oil is running down. and soaking the top of the plugs, as he unscrews the plugs it is getting all over the threads. Buy a new gasket set, I sealed the " o rings" around where the plug wires go with rtv and never had the problem again ...
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Originally Posted by genikz
Nope, sorry! SoCal.
Well, I'll be heading that way in a little bit... we should grab a brew while i'm out there! also, if you need a car detailed... lemme know.
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My black car did something like this, however it was an 8valve N/a.
The 4th cylinder was so badly scored that oil was blowing back into the airbox. A confused Rock kept topping the oil off, thinking it was loss due to a leak. However all of that oil collected into the airbox. It was so bad that when I floored it, the car would spit enough smoke to literally blind about 5 cars behind me. I came home from school one day, and I got on the car. My mom came outside and saw all of the smoke and thought that the car was on fire.
I delved into the problem later, putting new spark plugs in, and after ONE start they were filthy. Covered in oil just like yours.
The problem was the 4th cylinder injector was sticking open and dumping fuel into the crankcase. The oil got so contaiminated that it scored the block and probally toasted the rings. I have never seen the damaged to that engine however.
I have pictures of it, see page 5
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The 4th cylinder was so badly scored that oil was blowing back into the airbox. A confused Rock kept topping the oil off, thinking it was loss due to a leak. However all of that oil collected into the airbox. It was so bad that when I floored it, the car would spit enough smoke to literally blind about 5 cars behind me. I came home from school one day, and I got on the car. My mom came outside and saw all of the smoke and thought that the car was on fire.
I delved into the problem later, putting new spark plugs in, and after ONE start they were filthy. Covered in oil just like yours.
The problem was the 4th cylinder injector was sticking open and dumping fuel into the crankcase. The oil got so contaiminated that it scored the block and probally toasted the rings. I have never seen the damaged to that engine however.
I have pictures of it, see page 5
https://rennlist.com/forums/showthre...1&page=5&pp=15
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Originally Posted by Porschephile 924
Well, I'll be heading that way in a little bit... we should grab a brew while i'm out there! also, if you need a car detailed... lemme know.
I'm always ready for more 944 Spec tips
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Originally Posted by Rock
The problem was the 4th cylinder injector was sticking open and dumping fuel into the crankcase. The oil got so contaiminated that it scored the block and probally toasted the rings. I have never seen the damaged to that engine however.
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Originally Posted by WolfeMacleod
Genikz, for reference, my '88 924S's compression reads betwen 180 and 185 across all four cylinders...
Welcome to the club. I hope you get it solved soon.
Welcome to the club. I hope you get it solved soon.
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Yes its a dsg and yes it freaken sweet and yes i love it and its all mine and no you cant drive her. good luck on the 24
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'till you chip it
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Originally Posted by genikz
For sure man. I'm in Anaheim, about 10 minutes away from disneyland.
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Drove the 924S all the way from Seattle, I did.
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Originally Posted by WolfeMacleod
Heh. I was just down there in January at the Convention Center for that hugeass music industry tradeshow, NAMM. I'm sure you remember the extra 90,000 people and clogged traffic....
Drove the 924S all the way from Seattle, I did.![burnout](https://rennlist.com/forums/graemlins/burnout.gif)
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Drove the 924S all the way from Seattle, I did.
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What kind of mileage did you get on that trip? I have a feeling I'll be driving the 924S to and from the track for a while. Thanks!
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UPDATE:
I just got done with the cold/dry compression test. Results are:
#1: 165
#2: 165
#3: 160
#4: 156
Much lower than some 10.2:1 engines, but at least they're somewhat consistent.
With new ignition wires it idles much smoother, which is great. I guess at this point I'm going to log a few hundred miles and check the plugs periodically. During the compression test, the plugs looked good with only a little bit of oil on the base of #1, #3 and #4 (around the washer area). Let's hope that it was in fact just a bad wet compression test right before I got it and there is no actual leak.
Thanks for your help everybody. I'll keep ya updated.
I just got done with the cold/dry compression test. Results are:
#1: 165
#2: 165
#3: 160
#4: 156
Much lower than some 10.2:1 engines, but at least they're somewhat consistent.
With new ignition wires it idles much smoother, which is great. I guess at this point I'm going to log a few hundred miles and check the plugs periodically. During the compression test, the plugs looked good with only a little bit of oil on the base of #1, #3 and #4 (around the washer area). Let's hope that it was in fact just a bad wet compression test right before I got it and there is no actual leak.
Thanks for your help everybody. I'll keep ya updated.
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Those look really good actually the best thing is that they are all consistant, oil air sepurator perhaps. Oh yeah i cant wait to chip, the fact the engine is realy underated by factory plus chip is crazy. Stock 225hp and 230-240 ft pds w/t chip 260hp and 300 ft pds of tourqu
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Originally Posted by cjeckert
Those look really good actually the best thing is that they are all consistant, oil air sepurator perhaps. Oh yeah i cant wait to chip, the fact the engine is realy underated by factory plus chip is crazy. Stock 225hp and 230-240 ft pds w/t chip 260hp and 300 ft pds of tourqu
God bless turbos!
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Originally Posted by genikz
I used to have to drive home that way...but can avoid that area like the plague now
What kind of mileage did you get on that trip?
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What kind of mileage did you get on that trip?
EDIT:
Let me be a little more specific. As I recall.. (I believe I posted results awhile back, but I'm too lazy to search)
I filled up here in Seattle. I filled up again deep in Oregon, and again deep in California. Each fill was right about 11 gallons. I'll have to look for my tax reciepts for the exact numbers...I wrote the miles down on each reciept.
I put about one gallon in at the start of Tejon Pass, and made it all the way to the convention center before the low gas light came on. That was the only time it came on during the trip.
34-35 Gallons of fuel, roughly.
My place to Disney Land is 1173.6 miles. Lets estimate high, and figure 36 gallons.
32.6 miles.
For the record, If I'd done the speed limit all the way, it probably would have been higher. My average speed was "very" fast. We won't say exactly...
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Did you clean the area around the plugs? If so, enjoy it for a little while then take another peek to see where the oil is coming from. Given how dark and dirty it is, either it was there for a very long time, or it leaked a little while ago.
Compression test results look just fine (remember, it was a cold compression test). No worries there.
Compression test results look just fine (remember, it was a cold compression test). No worries there.
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Originally Posted by WolfeMacleod
30mpg
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Originally Posted by Zero10
Did you clean the area around the plugs? If so, enjoy it for a little while then take another peek to see where the oil is coming from. Given how dark and dirty it is, either it was there for a very long time, or it leaked a little while ago.
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Compression test results look just fine (remember, it was a cold compression test). No worries there.