P-mags, PCA Membership, Worth it?
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I tried PCA out a year and dropped it. I liked the $100 certificate but the DIY and forums and articles in journals were not very frequent nor adequate to the 968 or 928 which I own...So I subscribed to an English mag that costs me about $90 a year...911 and Porsche. Wish we had something similar in USA. Excellence doesn't have as many front engine articles. Tried that one too. Found that I can buy an occasional issue off the newstands and come out ahead.
I've subscribed to most Porsche/Sports Car mags at one time or another but was always irritated that I could buy the mags off the news stand several days to a week before I'd ever get mine in the mail...so why subscribe under these conditions? Other than price, I feel subscribing should have an advantage. So I
"shop" for mags and buy the single issues off the stands that interest me. I'd do different if I had a 911.
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I've subscribed to most Porsche/Sports Car mags at one time or another but was always irritated that I could buy the mags off the news stand several days to a week before I'd ever get mine in the mail...so why subscribe under these conditions? Other than price, I feel subscribing should have an advantage. So I
"shop" for mags and buy the single issues off the stands that interest me. I'd do different if I had a 911.
Harvey
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The biggest benefit I found to PCA is if you like to attend the track events. Compared to Audi club and a few others I've checked out, the cost is the cheapest.
But I agree, it seems that they are much more focused on the new cars. Vintage 911s are second on the list. Where us water-cooled black sheep fall into the list, who knows.
But I agree, it seems that they are much more focused on the new cars. Vintage 911s are second on the list. Where us water-cooled black sheep fall into the list, who knows.
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Really the only reason i am in the PCA is for the cheaper autocross cost. The membership practically pays for itself as you get a coupon that is either good for a free autocross event ($40) or i believe $30 or $40 of the cost of a DE event. You are correct, Panorama does not have much for us front engine owners, but they still have good articles about the new P-cars coming out...etc. Makes for a good bathroom read
. Excellence was great 3-4 years ago with their white '89 project 944. However they havent had much about that car in a long time now. I think the only magazine i have a subscription to is Road and Track....to tell you the truth im not even sure why im getting that magazine, i never paid for any subscription.
Actually another perk i didnt think of until now is meeting some great people. I felt a little nervous at first being a 19 year old kid with an old 944 coming to these events. But it was to my suprise that everyone, from the older 911 guys, to the brand new 997 guys are very friendly and willing to offer you advice with your driving..etc.
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Actually another perk i didnt think of until now is meeting some great people. I felt a little nervous at first being a 19 year old kid with an old 944 coming to these events. But it was to my suprise that everyone, from the older 911 guys, to the brand new 997 guys are very friendly and willing to offer you advice with your driving..etc.
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I agree that the people are the best part. Rennlist is awesome, with plenty of advice and great people, but for actual get togethers, etc, the PCA is a great resource.
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Originally Posted by Techno Duck
Actually another perk i didnt think of until now is meeting some great people. I felt a little nervous at first being a 19 year old kid with an old 944 coming to these events. But it was to my suprise that everyone, from the older 911 guys, to the brand new 997 guys are very friendly and willing to offer you advice with your driving..etc.
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The euro mag mentioned is pretty good, but only just, and anybody who has tried to start one for us has failed
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Bang for buck is Rennlist, and taking the laptop to the bathroom for a good read....just doesn't work so well.
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PCA is also good for discounts at certain dealerships and tire retailers [Butler Tire in Atlanta gives a 10% PCA discount, which is substantial when you spend a grand or more on a set of tires and installation]. Jim Ellis will run deals as well with coupons in the PCA catalog for service discounts, etc.
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Originally Posted by Techno Duck
Really the only reason i am in the PCA is for the cheaper autocross cost. The membership practically pays for itself as you get a coupon that is either good for a free autocross event ($40) or i believe $30 or $40 of the cost of a DE event. You are correct, Panorama does not have much for us front engine owners, but they still have good articles about the new P-cars coming out...etc. Makes for a good bathroom read
. Excellence was great 3-4 years ago with their white '89 project 944. However they havent had much about that car in a long time now. I think the only magazine i have a subscription to is Road and Track....to tell you the truth im not even sure why im getting that magazine, i never paid for any subscription.
Actually another perk i didnt think of until now is meeting some great people. I felt a little nervous at first being a 19 year old kid with an old 944 coming to these events. But it was to my suprise that everyone, from the older 911 guys, to the brand new 997 guys are very friendly and willing to offer you advice with your driving..etc.
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Actually another perk i didnt think of until now is meeting some great people. I felt a little nervous at first being a 19 year old kid with an old 944 coming to these events. But it was to my suprise that everyone, from the older 911 guys, to the brand new 997 guys are very friendly and willing to offer you advice with your driving..etc.
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Originally Posted by Techno Duck
Dan, i got it in the mail along with my membership card. I used it for the autocross school event.
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Here in Upper Canada Region, the leading Porsche dealer, Pfaff, offers a 10% discount on parts. The way I'm going with the project, it pays me to get the membership.
The Panorama magazing is actually not bad. I enjoy the columns by Michael Cotton and Bill Oursler.
However, if all you get out of the PCA is the magazine, then it probably is not the best deal. But usually autocross, DE, fun runs and the aforementioned dealer parts discounts (if available) usually mean there's something for everyone.
Oh yeah, I like 911 & Porsche World too, probably my favorite mag overall.
The Panorama magazing is actually not bad. I enjoy the columns by Michael Cotton and Bill Oursler.
However, if all you get out of the PCA is the magazine, then it probably is not the best deal. But usually autocross, DE, fun runs and the aforementioned dealer parts discounts (if available) usually mean there's something for everyone.
Oh yeah, I like 911 & Porsche World too, probably my favorite mag overall.
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What timing! My $30 event credit came in the mail today since renewing.
Like others have said, the local events and social outtings are the plusses of PCA while Rennlist is the source of my front engined cars technical goodies and GTG 's. Sharktoberfest was an effn' blast.
Like others have said, the local events and social outtings are the plusses of PCA while Rennlist is the source of my front engined cars technical goodies and GTG 's. Sharktoberfest was an effn' blast.
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My opinion:
1)Panorama is good for one thing: swatting flies
2)Classifieds and tech articles are useless
I never tried the track events although based upon what others have said that might make membership worth your while.
1)Panorama is good for one thing: swatting flies
2)Classifieds and tech articles are useless
I never tried the track events although based upon what others have said that might make membership worth your while.