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Old 06-29-2005 | 01:33 AM
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Does anyone know the difference in the ratios or lock to lock turns? I'm thinking on going to manual if its not a big change. Tnx
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Manual: 22:1 (3,8 turns)
PS: 18,5:1 (3,2 turns).
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manual
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steering wheel ratio 22.39:1
turns lock to lock 3.84-4.02

power
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steering wheel ratio LHD 18.85:1/RHD 18.96:1
turns lock to lock LHD 3.24/RHD 3.26
Old 06-29-2005 | 09:30 AM
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Aside from the ratios that have already been posted, I can tell you that from personal experience, it only takes a day or two to get used to the manual rack and begin to enjoy it.

At first, you notice that it takes a little more input to get around a tight corner (due to the ratio), but once you get used to it, you don't notice it at all. You will also notice that you can feel a little more feedback from the car and can notice when it is about to step out, or get loose. The only downside I can tell you about going to a manual rack is that on VERY tight autox courses with a lot of bus-stops and 180's, it is a bit of a bitch. Otherwise, on open roads and tracks, the feedback and feel are incredible. The car feels rock-solid and connected. (plus there is the added bonus of a simple system with no potential for leaks)
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I love my "manual" rack - the feel is incredible. I opted to retain the PS rack with the lower ratio and the only time its a PITA is after pulling a muscle at the gym (this always requires having your mother help you get dressed ).
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Originally Posted by tifosiman
The only downside I can tell you about going to a manual rack is that on VERY tight autox courses with a lot of bus-stops and 180's, it is a bit of a bitch. Otherwise, on open roads and tracks, the feedback and feel are incredible. The car feels rock-solid and connected. (plus there is the added bonus of a simple system with no potential for leaks)
I have a manual rack on both my 944-spec car and 83 autocross car.

I concur with feedback comments. Much better at the track.

On my 83 even in autocrossing I like the manual rack. It take a bit of unorthodox technique, but can still work well. Come to a 180. Simple remove one hand reach over the other handand pull the wheel for all its worth. The car will turn on dime if you have suspension balanced.


Sure it is not traditional by keeping your hands at 9 & 3 (or 10 & 2) , but doing that gives you the leverage to crank the wheel.
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Funny, I started working on that same technique at the last autox. I think I am getting better at it, and as a plus my arms are getting fairly toned and in shape.
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Originally Posted by tifosiman
At first, you notice that it takes a little more input to get around a tight corner (due to the ratio), but once you get used to it, you don't notice it at all.
Apparently you don't have to parallel park! I notice it when parking, but it has much better feel on the track.
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Thanks guys, it's looking more like the way to go.



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