89AZ944

Hello!

While fixing the classic "broken plastic clip causes full heat" problem (see clark's: http://www.clarks-garage.com/shop-manual/hvac-01.htm), I looked around to see if anything else need to be worked on. I found this while gazing up at my steering column (see attachment). I suspect that these are airbag connectors (It was an option for 89 but mine did not have them) but I would like to be sure I am not leaving something out before I put the seat back in.

Thanks!

89AZ944

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OWCH sorry for the HUGE PIC!

Zero10

Definately not airbag, all of their connectors are way bigger and more complicated than they need to be.
Plus, I have airbags, and still have those connectors

aribop

Is the power wire (red) switched?

Jeremy Himsel

I have a few cars at my house you're welcome to trace the wiring on if you want (airbag and non-airbag cars). West Valley just off the 101.

89AZ944

Jeremy-

I am emailing you a larger picture for you to take a look at. Thanks for the offer to come over. I'm in Gilbert and if I am in your part of town I will definately look you up.

That big gold thing in the upper right is the steering column if that helps.

Brad E.

89AZ944

Hmmm. I am trying to get the pic smaller so you can see the steering column....

89AZ944

OK here is a smaller picture showing more of the surrounding area:

Robby

Where are the vent clips in relation to this? Also, you said AB's were an option on your car... Are you SURE about this? I mean, is this a US car, or, ROW? I thought ALL of them from '87 or AT LEAST '88 on up had AB's in US.. both right & left....? I know all Turbo S cars did & have never heard of ANY Turbo, period, w/out AB's from '87 up- '86 did not have them, of course. I HATE AB's & would LOVe for mine to have been w/out them... have you ever removed your steering wheel? Just curious about the horn set-up.....

Anyway, I'll try to look under my car in a few hours & check those wires... not that I'll be any help, but, I'll try, nonetheless... I was going to suggest something to do w/wipers- headlight washers...? Does your's have them? Mine does (until I can get them removed w/several other parts, like, passenger AB....I've already got surrounding dash off- driver bag's been gone for years for a Momo...)- I'll check & see if those wires are connected to anything in my car....

Another possibility- factory alarm wire... I know that the left-rear factory speaker wires split back in there & was left open-ended like your's... I couldn't figure out why for several months until someone told me they were for the alarm... made perfect sense in that case....

My last un-educated guess would that it's in some way related to a car-phone connection? Seems highly unlikely, but, those were the years when they were in vogue & optional. Now they're unneccessary, since, everyone & his aunt & uncle has a CELL phone connected to them at all times..... God forbid anyone have more 15 seconds where no one can get in touch w/him IMMEDIATELY for those most important things that people ususually talk about, right...?

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Robby-

I took this picture flat on my back with my head stuck in the driver's foot well looking straight up. The clip I replaced is just out of the left side of the frame. If the camera were 2 inches over it would have caught it. I have not completely removed the steering wheel, but have pulled off the horn pad. No extra wires there.

Air bags- Optional on my car (89 NA) but I think the S2 and Turbo had them as standard for that
year. Factory alarm is alive and well....

89AZ944

I think that this might be a 12+ (the red wire) and ground (the brown wire) for some accessory that my car is not equipped with.....Hmmm....no more guesses?

Cyrus951

I have those same wires hanging under my dash. I just tapped into that red 12V (it's constant IIRC) wire to power my navigation system, radar detector, and g-tech.

Of course, if you're REALLY lazy and you don't want to trace them, you could just cross the two, see which fuse pops, and look it up.

89AZ944

I was tempted to do just that......but I am beginning to think it is an accessory lead/ground....I'm going to leave it alone for now...

Robby

Hey man- I'm really sorry- I forgot all about this- in my defense, I've had a virus/worm (trojan startpage.19.j) & can't get rid of it completely, so, haven't been completely online lately... Anyway, I went downstairs a second ago & looked for you... ok... it took me a few minutes to find, even though I was looking in the right place , immediately... there was tape wrapped around the top of the wires, which obscured the ends & the brown wire was tucked up in there pretty good- I tore the tape off & was looking at EXACTLY what you have in the above pic.... So, my turbo S does not have whatever it is either.... now I want to know..... COULD this have anything to do w/optional car phones? What are the REST of the wires in that loom? What about that GREEN wire? What are all of those....???

Anyone....???

OK- I have a question now... that brown wire- is that DEFINATELY a ground? IF so, could it be used to ground something else, if I connected another wire to it? Like, for an amp or something maybe? Just curious.... for several reasons.... :-)

schumi

While looking under my dash to check some fuses, I noticed probably 3-4 sets of unattached wires, as you said, they are most likely for options the car wasn't equipped with (just like I have several blank buttons on the center console/shifter console).