MotoMotions
04-20-2005, 01:41 AM
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MotoMotions
Anyone ever heard of MotoMotions? http://motomotions.com/product/index.htm
One product that intrigued me was the steel racing wheels they offer. They have amazing bang for the buck - I was quoted $390 for a set of 4 16x8 in custom offsets and powder coated black or silver. They also offer 16x10's and 16x12's. And they all clear 951 calipers too! 16x8 weighs 23 lbs, a tad on the heavy side, but 911 racers have used them without complaints.
I thought tires would be a problem, but Kumho makes 265/45/16 rubber for the 10's.
I'm thinking of ordering a set of 16 x 8 & 10 during the summer. Just thought I'd pass the word on a great deal.
They also have some very cool seats, much more aesthetically pleasing than ANY aftermarket seat I've ever seen before. I'm still waiting on a price quote.
One product that intrigued me was the steel racing wheels they offer. They have amazing bang for the buck - I was quoted $390 for a set of 4 16x8 in custom offsets and powder coated black or silver. They also offer 16x10's and 16x12's. And they all clear 951 calipers too! 16x8 weighs 23 lbs, a tad on the heavy side, but 911 racers have used them without complaints.
I thought tires would be a problem, but Kumho makes 265/45/16 rubber for the 10's.
I'm thinking of ordering a set of 16 x 8 & 10 during the summer. Just thought I'd pass the word on a great deal.
They also have some very cool seats, much more aesthetically pleasing than ANY aftermarket seat I've ever seen before. I'm still waiting on a price quote.
04-21-2005, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Serge944
The aluminum circle wheels are still in "development" and are meant for cars up to 2500 lbs only.
Any idea when they are supposed to be available?
I'd do some testing for them on the prototypes for the right deal on new wheels.
04-21-2005, 04:32 PM
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04-21-2005, 06:22 PM
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I looked at the Kodiaks in the same spec as the CCW's Track series I ended up with. The Kodiak's were basically the same weight and were $2130/set polished and delivered in 17x9 and 10. To anodize the centers on the Kodiaks was $15/wheel extra. The CCW's were $1800/set w/shot-peened anodized centers + shipping. All and all pretty comparable wheels with the CCW's getting the nod from good exposure in racing and a slightly lower price.
06-02-2005, 02:47 AM
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Hi Guys...my ears were burning :-)
This is an excerpt from a post on the Pelican 911 Racing board:
The wheels are custom made for us by Circle (it's no secret). You can follow the development of the wheels in the other thread. It was a good battle, but I'm certainly very happy the wheels are finally making it out there on 911s!
I tried to get Diamond to make some for us, but they couldn't make it happen. As it turns out, Diamond also gets their supply from Circle, and then they weld them inhouse. They couldn't make the offsets that we wanted for the front....So we basically cut out the middle man and went righ to the source.
Sure you can say MotoMotions is now the middle man, but I think we deserve to be after all the time and $ I've invested to make this happen. No one is making a killing on these wheels as the margin is rather small, but I'm proud to be able to provide a solution for the budget minded driver. We pay a little more to get the centers custom made for us, and with the steel surcharges...I'm just glad we can sell them for the price.
Joe (jacko241) has proven that the wheels can be used in competition with little compromise. Joe's being modest, but he ran against some tough SCCA competition. Driver and car make more of a difference than the 5 or so pounds that each wheel tosses into the mix.
Most of us won't ever need to shed that extra weight at the level of driving we are at. And with the tires being the bigger contribution to inertia...I don't think the 5 lbs on the wheel will be noticed. For grins I'll run some comparison of the inertia and post it when I get some time to play with the calculator.
It's low bucks and it's a hell of a deal. You can spend 4-5 times more for the lower priced alloy racing wheels, and you wouldn't be running away from a car running the steelies....not everyone can drive at 10/10 all the time. I wish we could...but for the guys running DE's and a few races per year...with a limited fun budget...there is no better solution.
Martin is running the 8 inch wheels on all four corners which have different offsets front and rear, so the 225/245 F/R tires fit nicely. And if you want more rubber in the rear of an SC/Carrera fendered car, we can provide 8's for the front and 10's for the rear to run 265 or wider rubbers in the rear. RSR bodies...10's and 12's like Joe is running...no problem. Joe liked them so much he bought a second set!
I'll be using two sets. 8&8 and 8&10. With a custom powdercoated color scheme.
Save the Fuchs for the street and show...no need to abuse them on the track...and you won't have catastrophic failure with the steel wheels. I'm not trying to be an alarmist, but go read the threads on cracked Fuchs...save them for the street.
The wheels are DOT approved...so no issues driving to and front the track on them.
On the bank at Daytona, Joe's car probably load them more than most of us will see, and they handled the loading just fine. Try to get that in a set of wheels for less than $400...
I just don't see any drawbacks to these wheels. We've looked at other wheels that would be considered as low cost alternatives...but these were the only ones that met my approval. If I don't feel safe running them, I won't sell them.
Yes, I'm proud to offer these!
OK..enough of that...here....
The 8" Steelies weigh 23lbs each.
This is an excerpt from a post on the Pelican 911 Racing board:
The wheels are custom made for us by Circle (it's no secret). You can follow the development of the wheels in the other thread. It was a good battle, but I'm certainly very happy the wheels are finally making it out there on 911s!
I tried to get Diamond to make some for us, but they couldn't make it happen. As it turns out, Diamond also gets their supply from Circle, and then they weld them inhouse. They couldn't make the offsets that we wanted for the front....So we basically cut out the middle man and went righ to the source.
Sure you can say MotoMotions is now the middle man, but I think we deserve to be after all the time and $ I've invested to make this happen. No one is making a killing on these wheels as the margin is rather small, but I'm proud to be able to provide a solution for the budget minded driver. We pay a little more to get the centers custom made for us, and with the steel surcharges...I'm just glad we can sell them for the price.
Joe (jacko241) has proven that the wheels can be used in competition with little compromise. Joe's being modest, but he ran against some tough SCCA competition. Driver and car make more of a difference than the 5 or so pounds that each wheel tosses into the mix.
Most of us won't ever need to shed that extra weight at the level of driving we are at. And with the tires being the bigger contribution to inertia...I don't think the 5 lbs on the wheel will be noticed. For grins I'll run some comparison of the inertia and post it when I get some time to play with the calculator.
It's low bucks and it's a hell of a deal. You can spend 4-5 times more for the lower priced alloy racing wheels, and you wouldn't be running away from a car running the steelies....not everyone can drive at 10/10 all the time. I wish we could...but for the guys running DE's and a few races per year...with a limited fun budget...there is no better solution.
Martin is running the 8 inch wheels on all four corners which have different offsets front and rear, so the 225/245 F/R tires fit nicely. And if you want more rubber in the rear of an SC/Carrera fendered car, we can provide 8's for the front and 10's for the rear to run 265 or wider rubbers in the rear. RSR bodies...10's and 12's like Joe is running...no problem. Joe liked them so much he bought a second set!
I'll be using two sets. 8&8 and 8&10. With a custom powdercoated color scheme.
Save the Fuchs for the street and show...no need to abuse them on the track...and you won't have catastrophic failure with the steel wheels. I'm not trying to be an alarmist, but go read the threads on cracked Fuchs...save them for the street.
The wheels are DOT approved...so no issues driving to and front the track on them.
On the bank at Daytona, Joe's car probably load them more than most of us will see, and they handled the loading just fine. Try to get that in a set of wheels for less than $400...
I just don't see any drawbacks to these wheels. We've looked at other wheels that would be considered as low cost alternatives...but these were the only ones that met my approval. If I don't feel safe running them, I won't sell them.
Yes, I'm proud to offer these!
OK..enough of that...here....
The 8" Steelies weigh 23lbs each.
06-02-2005, 02:56 AM
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That is awesome, If I had the extra money to blow I would definately pick up a set. Always great to know there is another option out there to get some wheels. The excellent part about these is the custom sizing, someone try to find that custom sizing in wheels for a 944, and see if it can be done, and for about $400 AWESOME!
06-02-2005, 02:58 AM
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I expected to order a set sooner, but ended up with car issues. If I decide to go to track my new 944 this summer, I'll pick up a set of 8/10s. 245/265 victoracers sound damn good.
People who say they don't look good don't know what they're talking about...
People who say they don't look good don't know what they're talking about...
06-02-2005, 03:03 AM
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Thanks guys...it'll be a while before they catch on, but I'm happy to wait as I know the value of the wheels. I have a buddy with a 951 that is getting the "race car" make-over. I'll have to loan him a set of the 8x10x16's with Victoracers on them...I'm sure he'll like them just as much as his $3200 Fikse wheels 