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Old 04-14-2005, 12:10 PM
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I think Cotton calls the GTP a 924 Carerra because it has the same chassis as the 2.0L 924 Carerras. All of the 924 Carerras were designated 937s and the 924/44 GTP was, IIRC, chassis number 937 005.

Originally Posted by jonnybgood
There is some confusion on the 944 Lemans car. Paragraph 3.10 Production and Import Figures in the 924/944/FAQ lists the 1981 car as 944 GTP/R Le Mans. Micheal Cotton makes the mistake of calling this car a 924 Carrera. All 924s had the earlier engine block. The 944 Lemans car had the 944 engine block. In the ads by Porsche from 1986 with this car next to the 944 Turbo Porsche's ad refers to it as the 944 GTP

944 GTR

I didn't know that this 1986 car was not campaigned by the factory.
Old 04-14-2005, 12:15 PM
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I thought Porsche refered to the Le Mans car as a 944GTP as part of the marketing for the then new 944 turbo. Up until then, it was a 924.
Old 04-14-2005, 12:28 PM
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Still, the 951 pistons won't work due to not having the correct indentions on top. (did I spell that right??)
Why would it matter, the 8V pistons don't have 2 valve reliefs cut into them.

The next thing to consider, is that the 16V heads have a smaller head volume, not a lot, but it will affect the compression ratio, bringing it up from the normal turbo compression ratio (8.0:1?? or is it 8.5:1?), it will reduce the maximum boost you can run, so the best bet would be to buy custom pistons, and have them dished even deeper than the factory turbo pistons.
Old 04-14-2005, 12:39 PM
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Interesting about the chassis numbers and perhaps the marketing department calling for a name change. I suppose we should all agree they are damn fine cars.
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Originally Posted by Manning
I think Cotton calls the GTP a 924 Carerra because it has the same chassis as the 2.0L 924 Carerras. All of the 924 Carerras were designated 937s and the 924/44 GTP was, IIRC, chassis number 937 005.
Yes, they kept it under tight secrecy for the '81 race, the chassis was a year old 924 Carrera GTR and the engine was the 944 model, it was for Technical R&D. The car was listed as a 924 Carrera GTP, and raced as such. The factory obviously had plans to do more with the 944 series, but unfortunately the car fell out of favor with Porsche management. Porsche 924-928-944: The New Generation by Jerry Sloniger, 1981, also calls it the 924 Carrera GTP 944
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Just curiouse. The 16V head improves NA applications because you have a wider opening for "sucking" in air. On a turbo the air is compressed and forced into the cyliber. If you want more air, booste higher and more air will be forced in. It would seam that the benefits of 16v are negligable with forced air. I could see an advantage maybe on the exsast side. taking the 968 motor and adding a turbo makes sence because of the larger displacement.
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Originally Posted by ttwirz
It would seam that the benefits of 16v are negligable with forced air.
I think that is what they decided in the thread on the turbo forum. The 8V head has sufficient flow for the size of turbo charger being used.



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