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Old 01-13-2005, 12:29 PM
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Go for a drive and modulate the throttle on and off, you will feel driveline slack and hear some clanking, had this happen on an 84 I had, rubber clutch center was shot, common problem.

Not that your tranny mount might be worn out also, but my guess is clutch problem.
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Well...just spoke with a very reputable mechanic in the area and he feels that my problem (about 95%) most certainly is the rubber center on the clutch is shot.

that sucks!!!!!

Don't really have the budget for this right now...........

-J
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Sounds like rubber hub failure. Have you verified that yet? The clutch will work just fine in most cases of failure of the rubber hub unless parts of the rubber get jammed into the friction surface.

Here's how to check:

The 924S, 944, 944S and 944S2 each featured a rubber centered clutch disc from the factory. Generally, when the clutch fails, it won't be because the disc ran out of friction material, but rather that the rubber center deteriorated and fell apart.

To check for rubber center failure, lift the car and be sure the clutch is engaged (at rest) and the transmission is in neutral. Locate and pull the trapezoidal rubber plug from the front-bottom of the transaxle bell housing (just in front of the transaxle.) Reach inside and grab the drive shaft. Attempt to twist it by hand. Any more than slight movement (<1 degree) is usually an indication that the rubber center hub has failed.

In failure mode you may experience shuddering on acceleration and extreme lash on deceleration. The lash is a product of the built-in failure mode on the clutch itself. When the dampening rubber is gone, the clutch will rotate approximately 1/6 revolution until it engages metal cogs. The metal cogs are there to give you a "limp home" mode after failure. In some cases, a few thousand miles have been gently put on a car in failure mode. This is not recommended.
Good Luck!

EDIT: okay, so I'm a little slow...
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Thanks Skip!!!

Great stuff. I'm gonna give this a try.

-Jason
Old 01-13-2005, 05:39 PM
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What about engine mounts? If your engine mounts are worn, it can also cause vibration and "shuddering" under acceleration or letting off the throttle. Mine does this somewhat but, it's not very violent or serious.
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Originally Posted by Jason-87924S
Well...just spoke with a very reputable mechanic in the area and he feels that my problem (about 95%) most certainly is the rubber center on the clutch is shot.

that sucks!!!!!

Don't really have the budget for this right now...........

-J
Was that Ken you spoke with? Sorry to hear about that Jason. Good luck. Let me know if there is anything I can do to help.
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Well Jeremy as a matter of fact...yes it was.

I appreciate the offer on the help. I may just need to take you up on that when I have my clutch party when the weather gets better...LOL

Thanks to all,

J
Old 01-16-2005, 08:42 AM
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Skip...Thanks for the info on how to tell if the clutch center is shot. The test was very simple and confirmen that the clutch is indeed toast.

-J
Old 01-16-2005, 10:13 AM
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Jason I know what you mean by lash in the driveline. Four months after getting the car I took it to a track and did some hard laps. After a bit of a cooldown (for me), on the way home I noticed an incredible slack in the driveline. That was three years ago. It makes you shift really smooth. I keep saying I've to get at that and then something else comes up. I also have a high temp issue, leaking oil pan gasket, and my exhaust tip is too black. Sooo, today I'm looking at a LT4 engine out of a 97 vette. Hmmmn!



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