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View Poll Results: What have you done about your hood insulation?
Still have stock material -- looks like crap
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Removed stock material and have gone au natural
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Replaced stock material with factory replacement
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8.82%
Replaced stock material with a foil topped replacement (ala Weltmeister)
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8.82%
Homebrewed replacement -- please describe what you did and how it looks
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Underhood insulation -- what have you done about it?

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Old 10-10-2004, 01:45 PM
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Default Underhood insulation -- what have you done about it?

One of my projects for this winter is to detail my engine bay. Step #1 is to get rid of the original hood insulation, which is trying desperately to part ways with the hood and looks lousy. What have you guys done about yours?

I'm not inclined to go without anything (ala the Turbo S and later cars), as I worry about heat damaging the paint on the hood. I've been advised by concours guys that replacing the stock material with NOS factory material is problematic (besides being expensive), as the new stuff deteriorates quickly (perhaps it's all pretty old stock by now?). This leaves me leaning towards a Weltmeister style foil type alternative. Anyone done this? Is there an easy DIY approach using locally available materials?
Old 10-10-2004, 01:56 PM
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i took all that stuff off and left the remnants attached to the hood. it's too difficult and time consuming for me to worry about scraping all the fuzzy stuff off.

no plan on replacing it. my paint's been fine without it.
Old 10-10-2004, 02:01 PM
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I'm really not sure what I have.. So I can't answer the poll.. Is this the stock insulation? Sorry if the pic is too far to see if it is, its the best pic i have of it.

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/p1010010_copy3.jpg
Old 10-10-2004, 02:01 PM
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Same as Joe. Scrapped all the crap off, never bothered to remove the left over thin layer.
Old 10-10-2004, 02:10 PM
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yieldsign2 -- Yup, that looks like the stock stuff. It's a black foam with a waffle pattern on the surface.
Old 10-10-2004, 02:18 PM
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well, I can say that the exhaust side of the hood needs something. I still have the OEM insulation, in good condition (may have actually been replaced ~7 years ago when painted); and that side of the hood got horribly oxidized from the heat. I have tried one application of rubbing compound, and it seemed to help some; but thats a band-aid not a remedy. If I ever replace it; foil stuff is going in.
Old 10-10-2004, 02:44 PM
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There are old threads that tell how to remove it.
Old 10-10-2004, 02:48 PM
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My MY1989 didn't come with it.
I love the fact that the engine noise is magnified without it, but I have to deal with the paint on the hood cracking off. I just got my car repainted SY, and the paint is alreay starting to form cracks on the bottom of the hood. I feel this needs to be addressed quick, before I have a disaster on my hands.
So, anyone with an aftermarket kit that protects the hood paint, please, post a link to the product and your overall opinion of it.

Thanks
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My car never had it...and my paint seems to be fine. I guess you can see a LITTLE bit of a discoloration under real bright flourescent light in the garage, but nothing really noticeable. I don't think my engine bay gets quite as hot as Cyrus's would with a turbo though.
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Yeah, I would imagine with the turbo's, that the under-hood insulation is rather important.
Mine was replaced with the original crap about 10 years ago, when the hood was fixed up (car was in a bad crash 3 PO's ago), and it's just starting to fall apart now, has a few spots where it's crumbling.
I would replace it with the OEM stuff again, since it looks right, and seems to last about 10 years, that's not too bad.
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How much is the oem insulation?
Old 10-10-2004, 06:36 PM
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Wait Wait, I recently found the best solution to all of these problems, originally from a tip I had read somewhere.... Go to Home Depot and buy a "space age water heater jacket" that is what the package says. Then buy some kind of high heat resistant contack cement and a paint brush. Take the hood off, make a template of the places you need to cover and cut the material to fit. I think that in all it cost me about $25 and took about 2 hours total, its a great solution and really does look very nice. I'll show it off when I can get some pictures. It is the shiny metal looking silver stuff
good luck!
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What kind of high heat contact cement did you buy, and where did you find it?
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My car hasn't had that stuff since I got it (it was probably taken out in '90), had no idea there was supposed to be anything there until I read threads about it. No discoloration or paint problems, but I don't have a turbo either.
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oem insulation is around $80-90. I ordered mine from some guy on ebay who sells Porsche parts. Now my car is like it came out of the factory.


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