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Old 09-10-2004 | 11:06 PM
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i was wondering if there was some kind of cleaning solution or somthing that would make the rear spolier less dull

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Old 09-10-2004 | 11:08 PM
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Old 09-11-2004 | 12:45 AM
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Armor all, yo! I put it on everything.

I second Back to Black...that stuff is amazing!
Old 09-11-2004 | 12:53 AM
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I'll third back to black, good stuff! ALso heard of a tire gel product that works very well but haven't tried it myself
Old 09-11-2004 | 12:58 AM
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Yep, Back to Black ... soaks in nice... softens it up bigtime and keeps the shine.. I actually wish it didn't shine as much.. my spoiler soaked up about 1/2 a bottle..
Old 09-11-2004 | 01:15 AM
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Back to Black. Makes it like new. Ask 944S2NUT, he couldnt believe his eyes.
Old 09-11-2004 | 12:26 PM
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Don't use back to black. You might as well use black shoe polish. I only covers the problem, which is dried out urethane. Get some 3M rubber treatment and tire dressing. You may have to order it. Try carcareonline.com . You need something that does NOT have silicone in it. If you have used a product with silicone, the 3M will help to dissolve it out of the spoiler. It does not dissolve it in a uniform manner. It may be a little splotchy. The only solution is to apply several coats about a week apart and it will eventually even out. If you have white wax stains on the spoiler, try Wurth Citrus Degreaser with a terry cloth towel. The 3M will need to be applied in an even layer, and left on for a few minutes, out of the sun. Try a heavy, soaking layer before bed and let it stay on all night. Don't worry if the finish is uneven, a few more applications will even it out.
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Yup, silicone is very bad.
Old 09-11-2004 | 03:11 PM
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Don't use back to black. You might as well use black shoe polish...
Your experience with the Mothers product goes against just about everyones experience concerning the spoilers on this Forum. I've been using it since it came out with nothing but good results as many others have. I'm not saying the 3M product doesn't work as well or better but there is a history here to prove the Mothers is "better than black shoe polish"
It's not like we're pimping ArmorAll.
Old 09-13-2004 | 04:49 PM
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Thanks alot for the help i wasn't expecting so many responses thats great n/e ways i'll try both an then post which one worked better.
Old 09-13-2004 | 05:31 PM
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I've used Mother's Back to Black for the past 8 years. There is nothing I would even consider using in it's place. It is NOT amour all and it sure as heck isn't shoe polish either. It is a fantastic product that works as advertised with NO ill effects. Smells nice too!
Old 09-13-2004 | 05:32 PM
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What on earth is wrong with treating rubber with silicone? Ever hear of dry silicone lubricant that is FDA-specified for preserving rubber seals? That's what's used on all those reefer train cars and truck trailers, industrial refrigerators, etc. If big businesses use silicone to preserve rubber seals, I'm just gonna guess that it is okay to use it to preserve our spoilers.

I'm not much of a chemist, but I have a friend with a degree in polymer science who is a plant manager at Owens-Corning, and when I told him that I use a certain silicone spray (Zep or 3M dry silicone spray) on my rubber seals, he got all excited about it and exclaimed "Cool!..." and went on to explain why that was such a good idea, using a lot of words I have since forgotten, but something about base polymer blah blah blah.

Any polymer chemists on here care to explain things for us lay people?
Old 09-13-2004 | 06:29 PM
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I have had good luck with 303 Aerospace Protectant on all of the plasticy-rubbery things on my car, first time I used it on the spoiler brought it from a dull, blotchy gray and made it a nice, soft, smooth, satin black. Used about every waxing is good enough, unless you are way into concours finish. (In which case you are probably waxing often... so I guess every waxing is probably good enough for whatever your standards are). Only complaint is that it is a little pricy, and overspray will haze on windows/paint. Treat it like a spray wax and you will be fine.
Old 09-13-2004 | 06:38 PM
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I just used Back to Black and it works great! My spoiler was in pretty good shape to begin with, but it helped deepen the black color. Did wonders on my mirrors where I had white splotches. Highly recommended.
Old 09-13-2004 | 08:11 PM
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It's not suppose to shine. All that stuff will screw up your rubber and plastic.


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