Khumo MX have you tried them?
08-01-2004 | 03:12 PM
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Khumo MX have you tried them?
Seeing as how I cant seem to sell my car and it needs tires, I am shopping for a set.
After sifting through a bunch of on-line reviews(holy **** are people stupid!) who the f would try and drive a ultra high performance tire in the freekin snow and then complain about the grip
I was looking for some input from people that know how to drive.
After sifting through a bunch of on-line reviews(holy **** are people stupid!) who the f would try and drive a ultra high performance tire in the freekin snow and then complain about the grip
I was looking for some input from people that know how to drive.
08-01-2004 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by K27
who the f would try and drive a ultra high performance tire in the freekin snow and then complain about the grip
08-01-2004 | 04:51 PM
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Kuhmo MXs are about as good as a high performance tire is in snow and about as good as a studded snow tire is on dry pavement. Go get some Fuzions and learn that an inexpensive tire can have some grip!
08-01-2004 | 05:55 PM
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I would not put Khumo (aka ***-Ho) tires on. I put them on my Corrado (Sold) last year and you get what you pay for.
The Vancouver Porsche market is weird, It seems that a 86 951 for $12k sells in a week but your car at $21K is still for sale? If I had the money I would have bought your car not the 87 951 I just bought.
Here is a AD from the WA State PCA site. These Tires on the tire rack are $550 new so his price is high but he is in your area.
"Dunlop SP Sport 9000 tires - fronts 225-50/ZR16, rears 245-45/ZR16. In perfect condition, 80% tread remaining (8/32" of original 10/32" tread depth), only a few thousand miles on tires. Selling because I bought 17" wheels for the street, and want to mount R-compound track tires on my 16" wheels. Paid $1330CDN ($950US) for set, a bargain for $375US. Will deliver into US. Contact Ian Manning at 604-540-6390."
The Vancouver Porsche market is weird, It seems that a 86 951 for $12k sells in a week but your car at $21K is still for sale? If I had the money I would have bought your car not the 87 951 I just bought.
Here is a AD from the WA State PCA site. These Tires on the tire rack are $550 new so his price is high but he is in your area.
"Dunlop SP Sport 9000 tires - fronts 225-50/ZR16, rears 245-45/ZR16. In perfect condition, 80% tread remaining (8/32" of original 10/32" tread depth), only a few thousand miles on tires. Selling because I bought 17" wheels for the street, and want to mount R-compound track tires on my 16" wheels. Paid $1330CDN ($950US) for set, a bargain for $375US. Will deliver into US. Contact Ian Manning at 604-540-6390."
08-01-2004 | 06:13 PM
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I would not put Khumo (aka ***-Ho) tires on. I put them on my Corrado (Sold) last year and you get what you pay for.
The Vancouver Porsche market is weird, It seems that a 86 951 for $12k sells in a week but your car at $21K is still for sale? If I had the money I would have bought your car not the 87 951 I just bought.
Here is a AD from the WA State PCA site. These Tires on the tire rack are $550 new so his price is high but he is in your area.
"Dunlop SP Sport 9000 tires - fronts 225-50/ZR16, rears 245-45/ZR16. In perfect condition, 80% tread remaining (8/32" of original 10/32" tread depth), only a few thousand miles on tires. Selling because I bought 17" wheels for the street, and want to mount R-compound track tires on my 16" wheels. Paid $1330CDN ($950US) for set, a bargain for $375US. Will deliver into US. Contact Ian Manning at 604-540-6390."
The Vancouver Porsche market is weird, It seems that a 86 951 for $12k sells in a week but your car at $21K is still for sale? If I had the money I would have bought your car not the 87 951 I just bought.
Here is a AD from the WA State PCA site. These Tires on the tire rack are $550 new so his price is high but he is in your area.
"Dunlop SP Sport 9000 tires - fronts 225-50/ZR16, rears 245-45/ZR16. In perfect condition, 80% tread remaining (8/32" of original 10/32" tread depth), only a few thousand miles on tires. Selling because I bought 17" wheels for the street, and want to mount R-compound track tires on my 16" wheels. Paid $1330CDN ($950US) for set, a bargain for $375US. Will deliver into US. Contact Ian Manning at 604-540-6390."
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08-01-2004 | 06:32 PM
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Damn, jcb, I think we get it.... 
Did you use the MX or 712? Apparently there is a BIG difference between the two. The 712s are crap while the MXs are supposed to be good.
K27, have you read Tire Rack's reviews yet? I'd trust them before I'd trust a lot of the users.
Kumho MX test from Tire Rack.... It was faster than the KD in the wet and just behind it in the dry. I'd rather save the $100 difference and buy the MX.
On the outside, the ECSTA MX molds a racing-inspired, silica tread compound into a relatively shallow, 9/32-inch deep directional pattern. The design features massive, stable blocks to increase cornering traction and steering response, while four large circumferential and multiple directionally-aligned lateral grooves resist hydroplaning and enhance wet traction. Internally, two wide steel belts are reinforced by spirally-wound nylon cap plies to provide excellent strength, uniform ride quality, and high speed capability while the sidewalls are tuned to resist lateral deflection to provide handling control and feedback.
On the road, the ECSTA MX also delivered a firm ride quality but was able to absorb tar strips and expansion joints better than the g-Force T/A KD. And while the ECSTA MX was also praised for responsive real world handling, it felt a little less twitchy on the road. The ECSTA MX generated noise level that was rated between the other two tires.
On the track in the dry, the ECSTA MX came into its element by also providing very responsive handling, superior cornering and excellent braking traction; but it wasn't able to run quite as fast as the g-Force T/A KD.
On the track in the wet, the ECSTA MX continued to provide responsive handling, along with good cornering and braking traction. This made the ECSTA MX easier to drive at the limit and allowed it to turn the fastest lap times of the three tires.
Did you use the MX or 712? Apparently there is a BIG difference between the two. The 712s are crap while the MXs are supposed to be good.
K27, have you read Tire Rack's reviews yet? I'd trust them before I'd trust a lot of the users.
Kumho MX test from Tire Rack.... It was faster than the KD in the wet and just behind it in the dry. I'd rather save the $100 difference and buy the MX.
On the outside, the ECSTA MX molds a racing-inspired, silica tread compound into a relatively shallow, 9/32-inch deep directional pattern. The design features massive, stable blocks to increase cornering traction and steering response, while four large circumferential and multiple directionally-aligned lateral grooves resist hydroplaning and enhance wet traction. Internally, two wide steel belts are reinforced by spirally-wound nylon cap plies to provide excellent strength, uniform ride quality, and high speed capability while the sidewalls are tuned to resist lateral deflection to provide handling control and feedback.
On the road, the ECSTA MX also delivered a firm ride quality but was able to absorb tar strips and expansion joints better than the g-Force T/A KD. And while the ECSTA MX was also praised for responsive real world handling, it felt a little less twitchy on the road. The ECSTA MX generated noise level that was rated between the other two tires.
On the track in the dry, the ECSTA MX came into its element by also providing very responsive handling, superior cornering and excellent braking traction; but it wasn't able to run quite as fast as the g-Force T/A KD.
On the track in the wet, the ECSTA MX continued to provide responsive handling, along with good cornering and braking traction. This made the ECSTA MX easier to drive at the limit and allowed it to turn the fastest lap times of the three tires.
08-01-2004 | 07:03 PM
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Thanks for the review, I was a little worried about soft sidewalls that some users reported, I do not like unresponsive steering.
I also believe the 712's are crap and would not buy them.
I also believe the 712's are crap and would not buy them.
08-01-2004 | 08:07 PM
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I have pics of a 7K miles Ecsta MX is a "few" pieces from sidewall failure. I am a tire pro, I know why the tire failed. To be honest, I thought they were crap when I bought them and driving on them for 7200 miles certainly reinforced that. They are junk and to be quite honest, not even really all that cheap. Far better options for just a little more money.
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08-01-2004 | 08:17 PM
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Streck - I deal with tires every day, trust me, I KNOW why the tire failed. But just for your clarity:
Pressures were in the 30lb range (plus minus a few pounds as air pressure changes as you drive from heat buildup), the other rear read 34psi at the time of failure, kind of hard to take a reading on this on, not much left of the sidewall to air up.
Tires were never used on track, this was my daily commuter, about 60 miles per day.
Never had wet grip worth a ****, my bald (and I do mean bald) S-02s handled far better in the wet weather. Nearly as bas as a set of Goodyears in the rain, car was almost undriveable, tire spin through 3rd gear was quite easy.
Dry grip was okay, never tracked this set so I will not comment (I have tracked other sets of MXs).
Fact remains that for a few bucks more you can get a set of far better built Pirelli or Bridgestone tires that handle better, ride smoother, last longer, and offer the piece of mind that buing a cheap tire does not.
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Pressures were in the 30lb range (plus minus a few pounds as air pressure changes as you drive from heat buildup), the other rear read 34psi at the time of failure, kind of hard to take a reading on this on, not much left of the sidewall to air up.
Tires were never used on track, this was my daily commuter, about 60 miles per day.
Never had wet grip worth a ****, my bald (and I do mean bald) S-02s handled far better in the wet weather. Nearly as bas as a set of Goodyears in the rain, car was almost undriveable, tire spin through 3rd gear was quite easy.
Dry grip was okay, never tracked this set so I will not comment (I have tracked other sets of MXs).
Fact remains that for a few bucks more you can get a set of far better built Pirelli or Bridgestone tires that handle better, ride smoother, last longer, and offer the piece of mind that buing a cheap tire does not.
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08-01-2004 | 10:45 PM
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I ran them on my 944 on the street and on the track. They blistered a wee bit at Road America, but considering you're threshold braking from 120-35, I could live with that.
They were, hands down, the loudest tire I ever had on my car. I didn't much care as the squeal from the brake pads was even louder. Never ran them in snow, used Blizzaks for that. In the rain they were very acceptable to me.
They were, hands down, the loudest tire I ever had on my car. I didn't much care as the squeal from the brake pads was even louder. Never ran them in snow, used Blizzaks for that. In the rain they were very acceptable to me.