karlfrevans

I put my 87 951 up for sale and got this email from WorldCars. It just seems fishy that these guys would buy a car without looking at it.

The email follows:

Hi Karl,
I got your mail and the contents well understood, as i informed you in my
last mail,that we have a cashier check which is made out for the order,but
the amount on it is bigger than what you are supposed to be paid.However,
our client has instructed us to carry on with his check, that means that
payment will get to you in cashier check of $25,000.00 which is a refund payment
of a cancelled order earlier made by my client.So you are required to deduct cost
of your car $17,000.00 when payment gets to you and refund balance $8,000.00
to my customer via moneygram international money transfer for him to be able to
offset shipping charges.
After payment has reached you and balance sent back to him,our agent will
come for the pick up and drive to a prepaid shipper to be shipped to my
customer,while title papers and other necessary documets will be handed
over to my agent at the time of pick up.
Please Confirm this and provide name, address and phone number for check payment to be delivered to you via fedex courier .
Thanks and God bless,

tifosiman

Yes

Techno Duck

Defenetley a scam, there are a number of variations of this type of letter, the ones i have read mostly involve a buyer from out the country looking to have the car brought over. Refer to these posts...

https://rennlist.com/forums/showthre...ht=africa+scam

https://rennlist.com/forums/showthre...ht=africa+scam

Peckster

Ask for the cheque and hand it over to your local police force.

karlfrevans

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you!!

Peckster

On the other hand, you really don't want anything to do with these guys. Are there any police organizations in the U.S. who deal with this kind of thing? Maybe you could let them know.

It must be a pretty successful scam because you hear about so many of these offers.

v944god

Yes

Brett Jenkins

99% of the time, if it sounds too good to be true, it is too good to be true.

MAS

Yes, it is 100% a scam... and a common one. The large check they send you is a fake (or at least has no funds in the account). Most out-of-town checks (out-of-state/out-of-country) checks can take several weeks to properly clear for the banks, even though the funds may register temporarily in your account. The scammers are hoping that you'll send them an $8,000 check, before anything bounces. Once the big check bounces, you're 100% liable for the $8,000 that you'll owe the bank (which is why they want the money wired to them, rather than a check).

The car actually doesn't enter into the deal at all. It doesn't have to. It's simply a way to get you to send them a large sum of money.

By the way, this is not my opinion, I am simply repeating the main points in similar posts here and in many other car forums. This scam has come up many times before. Luckily, most people (like you) question the procedure.

-MAS

Mongo

call the police, or FBI, they deal with fraud too. Then track 'em down and shoot them yourself

that last one i was just kidding.

Andy

Scootin159

^^^Exactly what he said. Normally they don't even take the car, they just take their $8k and run. I'm guessing the $17k is well over your asking price as well (enough over to make you jump on this 'deal' quick).

karlfrevans

Stig,

I like your style! And I've always liked that Victoria's Secret model you have for an icon.

I really don't want to sell my car anyway.

Thanks to all of the other Rennlisters for helping me avoid a stupid mistake! You guys are great.