washington951

hey folks,
anyone know when the 3-series is going to get the face-lift so that it looks like the current 7- and 5-series?

where could i find some pics if they exist?

thanks - now...back to your regular porsche topics!

MPD47

I believe the new 3 series is schedualed to debut sometime in 2005 and the new M3 sometime in late 2006/early 2007.

Geo

Never I wish. Chris Bangle needs to be put out to pasture like Nissan did with Jerry Hirshberger.

But, the change is inevitable.

BTW, it will split into the 3 (4 door) and 4 (2 door) series.

951Badger

We just purchased a 2001 325i with premium package, sport package, and all the goodies. Grey on grey. Beautiful car. Not sure the new model will look as good.

Jason_86_951

Never mind the 3-ser, wheres the new M2 (yes two)????????????????Gotta have one

seb928s

Any informations on that M2 Jason?

deni durrell

M2, what about the M4?? (ok, gotta go to bimmer.org for that dope).

atinybug

i think the new 5 and 7 series are ugly, the models around year 2000 were the best looking IMO...

ljd-924SE

my good friend and '74 bmw 2002 owner recently informed me that bmw is planning to enter the world rally championship. i'd love to see a small, powerful, awd bimmer. i really hope that bmw's entry into wrc actually happens.

deni durrell

ljd-924SC: they'll probably use the 320 E46 if they do... Nice to hear nonetheless. Rally is awesome...!

Mikeaagesen

Yes, he did ruin the new 5 and 7 series. I actually like the E36 gen of 3 series the best out of any BMW. Btw, there was a huge petition going around of people signing to have Chris Bangle fired. I also heard a rumor that maybe they did do something about him? Can anyone else shed some light on this?

MPD47

Bangle is no longer the head of design at BMW as of a few months ago. I cant remember if he's staying on as a consultant or what. I think he may have gone to GM.... but i cant remember exactly.

Matt H

They will also be introducing the 1 series cars in America in late 05 early 06
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ljd-924SE

mike and mpd:

bangle is no longer the head of design, he's been promoted to head of production (or some similar title). he was not fired. and the worst part is that the guy who actually designed the 5, 7, and Z4 (bangle simply set the policies for those cars) whose name i can't remember, has been appointed to head of design. so nail in the coffin for bmw.

deni:

that's interesting because i've heard they will be basing the car on the smaller 1 and 2-series cars. i would think it would make sense to use a smaller lighter platform just as peugot, citroen, and ford do.

deni durrell

ljd-924SC: you're right, I was basing that on conjecture, I forgot the "1er" and "2er" series cars were coming out (later). Makes sense.
the fog is clearing now... I hope they give Subaru some good competition.