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Old 04-30-2004, 06:35 PM
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Unhappy uh oh....

Im not sure if this is the problem.
Is that the head gasket?
or the valve cover gasket?




And if its either it needs to be replaced





NOW!
Old 04-30-2004, 06:38 PM
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gam cover gasket? that is the water pump im looking at?
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Old 04-30-2004, 06:39 PM
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oh yea, while were here, anyone, whats the name of that cork gasket in back of the cam cover? the 3 bolts one? i need to order it, but forgot the name.
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Old 04-30-2004, 06:40 PM
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Pull your dist cap and check under there. If there's oil, its the cam housing seal. Either way, looks like its time to do your belts.

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the orange thing at the top is the distributer and rotor.
the thing at the bottom is the water pump.
The car IS leaning forward which may do something but that is one bad leak!
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I did look under the cap.
I took it off and cleaned the connections even.
No oil though
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Let me clarify... I didn't mean inside your distributor cap, I meant you need to look inside the cam gear cover. You would need to pull the dist to get to it.

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Old 04-30-2004, 06:46 PM
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Originally posted by sh944
Pull your dist cap and check under there. If there's oil, its the cam housing seal. Either way, looks like its time to do your belts.

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cause theres oil on them? could he have already skipped a tooth when he tryed to start it a bunch of times and thats why it would start and die right away? hopefully you didnt damage anything. member i said does it sound like its getting good compression, thats what i meant. hopefully thats not the case.
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P.S. how can you not notice a huge puddle of oil on the ground for so long, lol.
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Do the belts skip teeth alot?
that would suck royally
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Originally posted by Eyal 951
oh yea, while were here, anyone, whats the name of that cork gasket in back of the cam cover? the 3 bolts one? i need to order it, but forgot the name.
~Eyal
I've heard it called the "Hippo Gasket" as it kinda looks like a hippo. The correct term is "Rear Cam Housing Cap Gasket", or part #: 928.105.189.02
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To me that looks like it's the "Cam Housing" gasket (your car has no cam cover, only the DOHC cars have that). The simple way to check: If it's leaking from ABOVE the exhaust pipes (which attach to the head), it's the Cam Housing gasket, if it's below them.....Head Gasket.

Another possibility is the main cam seal behind the distributor.
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Originally posted by Campeck
Do the belts skip teeth alot?
that would suck royally
If they're loose they can skip teeth....especially if they are also covered in oil. Just pull the distributor & see if there is oil on the belt. You should also be able to see if it's leaking around the rotor/end of the camshaft or if it's leaking from the gasket between the cam housing & the head.
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well its probably not a skipped belt seeing as it must have something to do with fuel rates and air induction because when i push the gas it stops the engine completely.
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That looks like the cam seal leaking. Mine was leaking exactly like that 2 or 3 weeks ago before I replaced it. Usually the oil leaks down the inside of the timing cover without getting on the belts themselves. It's an easy fix, I think it took me a little over an hour on the 951. There's no reason to completely remove the timing belt if it's not contaminated with oil, merely set at TDC, mark the belt and cam sprocket with a reference point in white paint, loosen the tensioner and slip the belt off the sprocket. Just replace the belt on the sprocket lining up your paint marks and retension your belt. Go ahead and replace all 4 parts to the cam seal ( seal, o-ring, rubber "plug" for the back of the distributor housing, and the mylar washer)and probably the spacer too.
Good luck!
Old 04-30-2004, 09:19 PM
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BTW, you will need the 10mm triplesquare to remove the cam bolt. I remove the cam bolt before I slip the belt off, and you'll need a second person to hold the 32mm retaining collar while you loosen the bolt. I would go ahead and replace the cam bolt or at least have one handy in case the threads strip out on the original, they only cost about $3.


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