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Old 03-30-2004 | 02:47 PM
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I'd approach the value this way;
A decent high-mileage 968 tip will run ~$10-12k
A modded turbo S is a little harder to put a price on but a clean original one will go mid-teens. There are many who would pay a premium for an unmolested example, modded cars are harder to sell and don't usually go for as much.
Sadly, I think a car that's half and half will be even harder to sell at even the lesser of the two numbers. Things like carbon fiber stickers on the dash limit the pool of potential buyers even further. It sucks but selling a modified car is one of the fastest ways to lose money you'll ever see.
Put it up for $12.5k and cross your fingers, think long and hard about any offers over $10k
Old 03-30-2004 | 02:50 PM
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This thread is worthless without pics to see the quality of work.

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If this sounds rude, I don't mean it to. I just mean it is hard to guage the value of such a special car without seeing it, and the work. That's all. Sorry if anyone read this wrong...........

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Old 03-30-2004 | 03:03 PM
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Good point Tifo, I had meant to point out that I had made assumptions about how it was put together. My guess is it wasn't intended to be show quality with tons of fabricated (billet, etc) pieces, but a solid street conversion that used factory parts wherever posible and the stuff that was fabbed is neat and solid but maybe not a work of art.
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after all the time and money you've invested, i'd think you'd be much better off enjoying your work. i wouldn't expect to get a lot of money out of this 968/951S hybrid.

as a side note, i hope to do a 968 3.0 L powerhaus turbo conversion in the future. so i always keep my eye on an 968 turbo projects going on.

can't wait to see the pics.

*** edit - powerhaus conversion, not AMW ***

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Old 03-30-2004 | 03:41 PM
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Originally posted by ljd-924SC
as a side note, i hope to do a 968 3.0 L anderson turbo conversion in the future.
Do you follow this forum much?
Old 03-30-2004 | 04:42 PM
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Ill start the bidding at $1000 assuming it can pass a PPI and is capable of making a thousand mile plus drive home.
Old 03-30-2004 | 04:50 PM
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Welcome back Turby, I remember when you first came on the board!

good luck with the 968
Old 03-30-2004 | 08:30 PM
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What???

You don't owe me anything? For a premium price (525 USD), I got 4 worn out useless rotors, 4 calipers (that will need rebuilding) and no spindles (that you promised).

Do you take me for a fool?

What is your problem?
Old 03-30-2004 | 08:31 PM
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Anyway, I'll be dropping by for sure.

See you this summer.
Old 03-31-2004 | 09:44 AM
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[quote]

Marc, this is Morgan, listen I am very sorry about the time it has
taken me to get back to you I was out of town for the past couple of
months on a family emergency, I will get those hubs and spindles to you
ASAP. Is there anything else you need I might have, I will send it to
you free. -Morgan

[end quote]

Do you remember this? You don't owe me anything... are you sure?
Old 03-31-2004 | 10:39 AM
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Originally posted by Turby
Like I said you are obviously not fimillar with the specs..... here is a list of things that are better in the turbo s than the 968...
brakes
sway bars
hubs and spindles
30mm torsion bars in the rear carrier suspention
coil over front struts height and stiffness adjustable
adjustable rear shocks
transmission is strengthend.....

basicly the whole suspention is the best offered from porsche on our cars
Just to correct you on a few points:
Brakes: Yes, standard 951S brakes are better than standard 968 brakes, but same as 968 M030 and if anything 968 M030 have crossdrilled front and rear rotors which 951S does not, so this one goes to 968.
Torsionbars: Standard 25.5 on both cars, even a STANDARD 968 has 25.5 which is what is stock on 951S.
Swaybars: 951S has 26.8mm front and 16mm rear which is same as STANDARD 968 not 968 M030 which has 30mm front and 19mm 3 way adjustable rear, so this one goes to 968 as well.
Hubs and spindles: Same if both are M030 which 951S is, so a toss up.
Coilovers: 951S has these and so does a 968 M030 and if anything their rear shocks are adjustable have helper springs as well, so this one goes to 968 as well .
Transmission: 951S is a 5 speed and 968 is a 6speed and 968 trans can handle upto 600hp, so this I would keep as a tossup due to some pinion bearing failures on 968 trans.
Where do you see this setup being so much better. I think I am upto speed on this as I have owned atleast 3 951S and another 3 968s. Please educate us . Not trying to be a smartass but just want to understand your point of view.
Also, I would suggest when you use 968 and turbo S in the same sentence, please clarify its a 951 turbo S not a 968 turbo S which in stock form would pull circles around most cars out there. People might get confused and think you mean 968 turboS parts which are usually unobtainium or 5 times the cost of any 951S parts.
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Old 03-31-2004 | 11:01 AM
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951 in a 968 body.
Then again, what is a 968 Turbo if not a 968 with a 3.0L 951 engine? The 968 Turbos that are not factory that is.

Raj, I think Morgan meant 951S stuff vs. basic 968 stuff, not M030 stuff. I'm sure he knows that 951S suspension was the same M030 stuff that came on the 968, as we've talked about it in the past.

When you consider the alternative, this 968 Turbo would pull far more then $10,000 from the market I think. What's the alternative -- a factory 968 Turbo?? The $20,000 kit from Powerhaus?

Stick that puppy in Excellence or the Dupont registry (if it is up to par cosmetically as it is mechanically) and I'm sure you'll get near what you want.

I'm sorry about the situation, Marc. I can only say that Morgan has been helpful with me and after he got back in contact with me I can understand how life sometimes happens. He has completely squared up with me and there are no hard feelings. I hope you get what you want for your Turbo... but I gotta ask -- why a NSX over a 968 Turbo Morgan????
Old 03-31-2004 | 11:28 AM
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Matt, a 968 turbo is NOT a 968 with 3.0 engine. If you were to look at the parts list what is different from other porsches, you will see it is more than 20 pages long. If you compare the 2 blocks, you will see that the water jackets are in a different place which makes it a completely different block and ofcourse the bore.
I agree, there is no way this car is worth "only" $10-12K. I would say more in the mid 20s atleast if not more.
People don't seem to realize what it takes to build something like this. The person that appreciates this will buy it and pay a premium.
BTW, PH will not charge you $20k for a 968 turbo conversion, more like double that by the time you are done .
Well I also disagree that M030 stuff on 968 was same, it was better and I can break it down for you again. As a matter of fact, most of the parts that were M030 specific on a 951 were standard on a 968 non M030 (control arm bushings, swaybars, torsionbars etc to name a few).
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Old 03-31-2004 | 11:32 AM
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Raj,

I didn't mean a factory 968 Turbo is a 968 with a 951 engine, I just meant the ones that are built after the fact. However, I don't know much of anything about 968 Turbos (or 968s for that matter) and I will concede to your expertise.

Speaking of m030 Raj, you have a PM.

-Matt

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Your PM box is full again. You are quite the popular guy! All I was asking is if you had any M030 sway bars for sale.
Old 03-31-2004 | 11:40 AM
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Thanks Matt, I did mean 951s vs a regular 968......


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