Notices
924/931/944/951/968 Forum Porsche 924, 924S, 931, 944, 944S, 944S2, 951, and 968 discussion, how-to guides, and technical help. (1976-1995)
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

1 Rennbay ball joint down, 2 to go :(

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-27-2004, 08:10 PM
  #1  
TKS
Intermediate
Thread Starter
 
TKS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Stamford, CT
Posts: 37
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Unhappy 1 Rennbay ball joint down, 2 to go :(

My friend and I did a bunch of work on the car today, including an oil change, OPRV clean-up, re-install of the oil pressure sending unit (since the jacknobs at the dealer put the wires on backwards and finger-tightened the unit to the car), and one of my two Rennbay ball joint kits since the joint was good and busted.

Everything went fairly smooth until we got the control arm off and found out the previous owner left it cracked and (very slightly) bent

It's not an immediately life-threatening crack, so we did the ball joint and put it back on temporarily, but I'll definitely need to replace it before I do any sort of autocross/DE--which means SOON Aside from that the install went good and I'm very happy with the kit, now I'll have to take it off and put it on the replacement I get! Speaking of which, anyone have a front left lower control arm with a busted ball joint but good bushings that I can buy?

On the plus side, the new joint got rid of the wobble at 60-65mph+, and the work we did on the oil system seems to have completely fixed my oil problems. Gauge shows 5 bar at start, 5 bar running, drops to ~2 on idle when warm, and in general works like it should. It used to drop to below 1 and flirt with the warning light when warm (and did some crazy **** after I let the dealer touch it), so this makes me feel much better.

Step by step, I'm getting there. Can't wait until I get the car in good enough condition to *really* drive it!
Old 03-27-2004, 10:45 PM
  #2  
Travis - sflraver
Site Sponsor
Lifetime Rennlist
Member
 
Travis - sflraver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: A great big building in the woods, FL.
Posts: 6,527
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Drop me a line when you get the new arm. I will send you a new set of cups to put in it so you dont have to use the ones out of the cracked arm again. If the arm is cracked then who knows how true the pocket is. A warped pocket may warp the cups between now and when you get the new arm.
email me at travis@rennbay.com when your ready for them.
Old 03-27-2004, 10:51 PM
  #3  
TKS
Intermediate
Thread Starter
 
TKS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Stamford, CT
Posts: 37
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Wow, awesome! That's customer service
Old 03-27-2004, 11:49 PM
  #4  
944_S_TYPE
Three Wheelin'
 
944_S_TYPE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Spencer, Mass
Posts: 1,279
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I've got a question........ Whats with the rubber boots included in the kit???? They dont even seal? I purchased that kit about 3mo. ago. It is great but I feel the boots were not the best. I had a heck of a time finding oem replacements. (they have metal rings th keep it in place.
Old 03-28-2004, 12:00 AM
  #5  
Matt O.
Addict
Rennlist
Lifetime Member

 
Matt O.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: wind-swept heights...
Posts: 10,835
Received 79 Likes on 35 Posts
Default

Originally posted by TKS
Wow, awesome! That's customer service
Yep -- Travis/Rennbay is one of those guys/vendors who "get it."
Old 03-28-2004, 12:28 AM
  #6  
Travis - sflraver
Site Sponsor
Lifetime Rennlist
Member
 
Travis - sflraver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: A great big building in the woods, FL.
Posts: 6,527
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Originally posted by 944_S_TYPE
I've got a question........ Whats with the rubber boots included in the kit???? They dont even seal? I purchased that kit about 3mo. ago. It is great but I feel the boots were not the best. I had a heck of a time finding oem replacements. (they have metal rings th keep it in place.
The polyurethane boots I use seal when installed. They get compressed down over the lip on the arm by the spindle when it is in place. It forms just as good of seal as the OEM rubber boots but with the advantage of being able to reuse them. With OEM boots, when the ball joint is taken loose from the spindle using a fork bar, will rip and must be replaced. The polyurethane ones I use can take this abuse over and over without even the first sign of wear.

And thats the story with the boots.
Old 03-29-2004, 12:22 PM
  #7  
TKS
Intermediate
Thread Starter
 
TKS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Stamford, CT
Posts: 37
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I was able to get my control arm off without using the pickle fork too much, and hence able to save the stock boot. I removed the bolts from the other end of the arm first and got it loose so I could wiggle it around and work it free with minimal fork-persuasion needed. I wasn't sure on the re-usability of the Rennbay boots and didn't want to waste one on a busted arm.

Does anyone have ideas of places I could find a control arm with a busted ball joint and good bushings? I've checked 944online.com, but they only sell rebuilt pieces, and I'm waiting to hear from partsheaven.com. Anyone have a parts car?
Old 03-31-2004, 08:11 PM
  #8  
944_S_TYPE
Three Wheelin'
 
944_S_TYPE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Spencer, Mass
Posts: 1,279
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Thank you for the reply. I understand.
Old 03-31-2004, 09:16 PM
  #9  
Joe Jackson
Pro
 
Joe Jackson's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Wilmington, DE
Posts: 601
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Who's using a pickle fork to pop out their balljoints? Just pry the clamped area apart slightly with a screw driver/pry bar/chisel and the balljoint will slide right out. No boot damage necessary.
Old 03-31-2004, 09:22 PM
  #10  
Travis - sflraver
Site Sponsor
Lifetime Rennlist
Member
 
Travis - sflraver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: A great big building in the woods, FL.
Posts: 6,527
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

I came across an original set (haven't been removed since installed in 86'). You want to see something that does not want to come out... thats it. It took a fork bar, 1 days worth of soaking with wd-40 and a hefty tap on the top with a large hammer to get it loose.
In a perfect world, where grease was used last time they were put in, the screwdriver trick works. The sad part is, the factory, and probably even the PO, did not take this step.
Old 03-31-2004, 09:24 PM
  #11  
Joe Jackson
Pro
 
Joe Jackson's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Wilmington, DE
Posts: 601
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

You are probably right on this one Travis. The only two 944's I've done ball joints on were a low mileage NA and my turbo which only had about 30k miles on "rebuilt" a-arms (aka, machined and ruined a-arms with Febi pressed in joints). Both came out easy but I can see how they could easily rust in place.

Originally posted by Travis - sflraver
I came across an original set (haven't been removed since installed in 86'). You want to see something that does not want to come out... thats it. It took a fork bar, 1 days worth of soaking with wd-40 and a hefty tap on the top with a large hammer to get it loose.
In a perfect world, where grease was used last time they were put in, the screwdriver trick works. The sad part is, the factory, and probably even the PO, did not take this step.



Quick Reply: 1 Rennbay ball joint down, 2 to go :(



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 09:19 PM.