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Old 09-22-2019, 10:07 PM
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Default Rough idle on start up 1989 S2

Recently my 1989 S2 starts idles rough and often stalls. I have owned the car for 7 years and never has this issue. If I give it a little gas it settles perfect. I have no other drivability issues, no smoke on start up and this only happens on the first start of the day.

Any common issues or ideas where I can start to look?
Old 09-22-2019, 10:17 PM
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If it only happens on start up at idle and goes away when it’s warmed up or you give it gas then it’s classic Idle Control Valve (ICV) symptoms. You can test it to confirm by bypassing and the replacement instructions are <here>.
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Originally Posted by MAGK944
If it only happens on start up at idle and goes away when it’s warmed up or you give it gas then it’s classic Idle Control Valve (ICV) symptoms. You can test it to confirm by bypassing and the replacement instructions are <here>.
That procedure doesn’t cover the S2 but I will look up on testing the ICV or system.

My old 951 had a bad ICV which caused a rough idle until warm. My idle is fine after a couple of seconds if I give it a little gas on start up.
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fuel injection temp sensor, intake leak, idle control valve. sometimes an engine mount that is going bad causes vibration at lower rpms as well
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how's your battery voltage during the process? does the car 'wake up' when the alternator kicks in?
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could also be a stuck fuel injector.
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Originally Posted by dr914
fuel injection temp sensor, intake leak, idle control valve. sometimes an engine mount that is going bad causes vibration at lower rpms as well
Mounts are less than a year old (factory Porsche) I would think an intake leak would cause issues all the time. Defiantly could be a temp sensor but it is dad’s that it only does it for such a short period?
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Originally Posted by thomasmryan
how's your battery voltage during the process? does the car 'wake up' when the alternator kicks in?
Battery is strong and alternator is less than 2 years old
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Originally Posted by Jfrahm
could also be a stuck fuel injector.
I was wondering about that however would it not cause some smoke?
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Have you checked your fuel pressure. Maybe some fuel related parts are going. Like filter, FPR. Sounds like maybe the system isn't producing enough fuel quickly enough.
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Injectors can stick closed as well as open.
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Try the fuel damper. I didn’t think it smoked on start up, but after someone else was starting the car I did see some smoke. Too rich. Damper had failed and was dumping too much fuel directly into the intake. After a 20 sec rough start it ran fine.
easy check. Unplug the vacuum line and see if any fuel drips out. Mine did. I temporary plugged it and the car started right away.
in the picture you can see gas dripping.



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