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05-19-2004, 06:55 PM
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Skip any chance you guys are going to start getting the do it yourself rear lenses? I need me a set of those now since my clear fronts will be here Friday...
05-19-2004, 06:59 PM
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If thats all you want is the reverse and side marker clear, I can help you...And you install them...SO all I have to do is make the lenses for you...If thats the case...Easy enough...To do what I have, thats alot of work...!
And there is no gaurantee...Cause I know for a fact that again taking out the old lenses, cleaning up the housings, and all that is not easy, if you wanna do it right, so you get no water leaks...!
DAmian
And there is no gaurantee...Cause I know for a fact that again taking out the old lenses, cleaning up the housings, and all that is not easy, if you wanna do it right, so you get no water leaks...!
DAmian
05-19-2004, 07:59 PM
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Damian - Yes, absolutely! Thanks for the offer. Real sharp car, Damian! Those seats are way layed back, eh, bro? 
FWIW, we now have the clear bulbs (1157, silver/blue - blinks amber) though they are currently on back-order.
FWIW, we now have the clear bulbs (1157, silver/blue - blinks amber) though they are currently on back-order.
05-19-2004, 11:19 PM
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Originally posted by SamGrant951
Round 2. Ding Ding Ding.
Skip any chance you guys are going to start getting the do it yourself rear lenses?
Round 2. Ding Ding Ding.
Skip any chance you guys are going to start getting the do it yourself rear lenses?
Honestly, I'll check into it.
05-20-2004, 11:53 AM
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Skip,
I mentioned this before, but you better put in more disclaimers regarding the clear signal and blinker lenses you are selling made by the Swedes are off road only. Trust me, they have never been approved and have all sorts of legal problems if someone wanted to pursue it.
I have nothing against them and have actually had a set on my 951 since whenever the Finns sent them to me - about a year now. But you are a business with assets and don't want to get tied up in a mess.
First they have never been certified to DOT or ECU so you could be forced to buy them all back like Altezza had to on some many 10s of thousands of lenses. Granted, you will never sell that many but something to keep in mind on how you word things on your web site.
Second, these are direct castings taken off the Bosch lens, hell, Bosch's name is still cast in the lens. So Bosch can come after you if they chose to, I can think of several claims they would have.
The final item would be some sort of personal injury suit in a crash. Just let your mind wander on what an attorney could dream up to drag you into a suit since you (Paragon) have some money.
I don't mean to be a wet rag on this but you need to protect yourself better. You need to clearly state that these are illegal for road use or are off road only. I don't know what you do about the Bosch trademark infringement and the fraudulent approval marks other than tell the Swedes to grind them off the next mold they make. That leaves the fact that they directly used the Bosch lens for the mold ...... I don't know what you do about that but it probably isn't a big issue until Bosch would come along and say "stop it". And then you stop it.
I mentioned this before, but you better put in more disclaimers regarding the clear signal and blinker lenses you are selling made by the Swedes are off road only. Trust me, they have never been approved and have all sorts of legal problems if someone wanted to pursue it.
I have nothing against them and have actually had a set on my 951 since whenever the Finns sent them to me - about a year now. But you are a business with assets and don't want to get tied up in a mess.
First they have never been certified to DOT or ECU so you could be forced to buy them all back like Altezza had to on some many 10s of thousands of lenses. Granted, you will never sell that many but something to keep in mind on how you word things on your web site.
Second, these are direct castings taken off the Bosch lens, hell, Bosch's name is still cast in the lens. So Bosch can come after you if they chose to, I can think of several claims they would have.
The final item would be some sort of personal injury suit in a crash. Just let your mind wander on what an attorney could dream up to drag you into a suit since you (Paragon) have some money.
I don't mean to be a wet rag on this but you need to protect yourself better. You need to clearly state that these are illegal for road use or are off road only. I don't know what you do about the Bosch trademark infringement and the fraudulent approval marks other than tell the Swedes to grind them off the next mold they make. That leaves the fact that they directly used the Bosch lens for the mold ...... I don't know what you do about that but it probably isn't a big issue until Bosch would come along and say "stop it". And then you stop it.
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05-20-2004, 12:08 PM
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I don't get it. Can anyone explain why change from yellow to clear? I don't get the excitement. Sure Leadfoot's car looks nice but it is just a light lense?
05-20-2004, 12:19 PM
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Jonny, Having the forward lenses in clear rather than amber really looks good on some of the cars. I have a black 951S and the front blinkers and sidemarkers in clear really do wonders for appearance.
I'm not keen on the rear in clear and won't do that.
Bottom line is it is just a taste issue and people that have the extra money to look the way they want to look. Why do women buy hundreds of pairs of shoes?
I'm not keen on the rear in clear and won't do that.
Bottom line is it is just a taste issue and people that have the extra money to look the way they want to look. Why do women buy hundreds of pairs of shoes?
05-20-2004, 12:22 PM
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I don't get it. Can anyone explain why change from yellow to clear? I don't get the excitement. Sure Leadfoot's car looks nice but it is just a light lense?
Cheers,
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05-20-2004, 04:26 PM
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Originally posted by IceShark
Jonny,
Bottom line is it is just a taste issue and people that have the extra money to look the way they want to look. Why do women buy hundreds of pairs of shoes?
Jonny,
Bottom line is it is just a taste issue and people that have the extra money to look the way they want to look. Why do women buy hundreds of pairs of shoes?
There are some rules that regulate the color of lights. I remember busting a camper in Colorado during a safety inspection many years ago because he had red clearance lights in front and the yellows in back. It may be important to keep red in back.
05-20-2004, 04:56 PM
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Jon
Yeah, I keep telling people to keep a good red light source in the rear as that is where you are probably going to get kissed. And not in a good way.
There is a reason about 50 rennlisters are going to have 35 watt halogen bulbs in their rear RED braking lights in a week or so.
I forget, are you a current LEO now?
Yeah, I keep telling people to keep a good red light source in the rear as that is where you are probably going to get kissed. And not in a good way.
There is a reason about 50 rennlisters are going to have 35 watt halogen bulbs in their rear RED braking lights in a week or so.
I forget, are you a current LEO now?