944S engine locked
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944S engine locked
Here is the problem
I have a 1987 944s RHD – has been off the road for 4 years (ops on feet etc)
A friend said they would like to buy it if I can get it going.
Went out and tried to start it – it just turned over but no start. (note: it turned over many times)
Figured the petrol was old and battery didn’t have a lot of charge
Put new petrol in and charged battery – then – back in hospital for hip op.
Another year goes by
Get in car to try again – and clutch pedal hits floor.
Order new master/slave – wait - put them in – leak in hose – order new hose – wait
Bleed clutch – repeat many times
Clutch works
Try to start it – and just get click … order new battery - wait
Back in hospital for another hip op
Put battery in – still just click
Pull starter – works fine on bench
Scratch head
Put starter back in – still just click
Check voltages to starter – looks OK
Pull starter but leave wires on and try it as it dangles – starter works
Scratch head
Try and turn engine over by hand
Moves a ¼ turn and it stops – with a clunk
Turn it back a ¼ turn and it stops – with a clunk
Pull valve cover and turn engine - cams turn – till it clunks (distributor turns also)
(pistons go up and down also)
Scratch head
Loosen alternator/compressor/PS pump
Still clunk
At this point all I can think of is that
Is there anything else I can check – or do I just bite the bullet and pull the head?
I have a 1987 944s RHD – has been off the road for 4 years (ops on feet etc)
A friend said they would like to buy it if I can get it going.
Went out and tried to start it – it just turned over but no start. (note: it turned over many times)
Figured the petrol was old and battery didn’t have a lot of charge
Put new petrol in and charged battery – then – back in hospital for hip op.
Another year goes by
Get in car to try again – and clutch pedal hits floor.
Order new master/slave – wait - put them in – leak in hose – order new hose – wait
Bleed clutch – repeat many times
Clutch works
Try to start it – and just get click … order new battery - wait
Back in hospital for another hip op
Put battery in – still just click
Pull starter – works fine on bench
Scratch head
Put starter back in – still just click
Check voltages to starter – looks OK
Pull starter but leave wires on and try it as it dangles – starter works
Scratch head
Try and turn engine over by hand
Moves a ¼ turn and it stops – with a clunk
Turn it back a ¼ turn and it stops – with a clunk
Pull valve cover and turn engine - cams turn – till it clunks (distributor turns also)
(pistons go up and down also)
Scratch head
Loosen alternator/compressor/PS pump
Still clunk
At this point all I can think of is that
- it has dropped a valve
- cam belt has slipped more than few notches
- or ?
Is there anything else I can check – or do I just bite the bullet and pull the head?
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If it dropped a valve you should be able to see it with the valve cover off. I would think it would turn more than 1/4 turn with a dropped valve.
If it stopped turning over when you replaced the slave cylinder, I'd check that. Pull the slave cylinder, see if it clunks.
Can you borrow or rent a borescope? That would be easier than pulling the head.
If it stopped turning over when you replaced the slave cylinder, I'd check that. Pull the slave cylinder, see if it clunks.
Can you borrow or rent a borescope? That would be easier than pulling the head.
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don't have a mirror thingy but will check to see what piston is coming up with values down
things to do when it stops raining (car is in driveway)
1. check pistons positioning
2. look in bell housing to see if anything is loose
3. check if slave is in correctly
4. have helper turn engine back and forth while listening (with screw driver in ear) to see where noise is coming from
things to do when it stops raining (car is in driveway)
1. check pistons positioning
2. look in bell housing to see if anything is loose
3. check if slave is in correctly
4. have helper turn engine back and forth while listening (with screw driver in ear) to see where noise is coming from
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There's not much piston to head clearance on the 11:1, may be possible that in your previous attempts from car sitting so long, a piece of carbon fell from the combustion chamber or valve face.
b), you really have the transmission in gear and the clutch rubber center has broken and the "clunk" you are hearing are the metal drive dogs that engage when the disc fails.
Was the car (you said it is in driveway) parked on an incline with the transmission/clutch holding it from rolling for an extended time...?
T
b), you really have the transmission in gear and the clutch rubber center has broken and the "clunk" you are hearing are the metal drive dogs that engage when the disc fails.
Was the car (you said it is in driveway) parked on an incline with the transmission/clutch holding it from rolling for an extended time...?
T
