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Old 01-17-2004, 11:57 PM
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Ok, I still have this damn squealing, it's usually when the engines cold and only when I start off it gets louder with the rpms, but I can stop it if I stop and let it idle, rev it up to about 2 grand and if it doesn't squeal let the rpms drop to about 1500 and slowly release the clutch. It doesn't come back if I start off like that and keep going, unless I come to a stop again and it starts again, I'd have to repeat the previous method to get it to stop squealing.

I'm going to get the belts retensioned, and see if that helps or stops the squealing.

But anyone who knows what might be going on or has an idea can always enlighten me with their ideas or opinions. Please no sarcasim (sp?) or other pointless things like "blinker fluid"

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Old 01-18-2004, 12:09 AM
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My guess: loose accessory belt -- I've got the same problem, but I've been too lazy to fix it.
Old 01-18-2004, 12:17 AM
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You think I could just wing the tension on one of the other belts beside the timing belt? I mean like just do it myself without a tensioning tool.
Old 01-18-2004, 01:37 AM
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Sure. Also when it does this, what is going on with the voltage guage? drops down to between 10 - 12. Glazed alt belt need to replace it.
You don't need the 9021 for the acc belts. IMO
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Sounds like a belt to me! Hate those squealers!!!!!
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IIRC, Hayne's manual indicates how tight it ought to be using the deflection method (ie w/o tension gague).
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The 924S (same as early 944's) should have a defelction of 5mm on the alternator belt, that is equal to about 85lbs of tension when checked with the Kricket-1 tool. You never did tell us if you checked the tension of the accesory belts, ive told you too do that every time you mentioned the problem!

You could just tension those belts yourself in the driveway, i dont see a reason to bring it to a shop just for that. But being your in NJ, you are problaby getting dumped on with the snow and single digits right now. Its easy to do though, i think the hardest part is taking off the engine pan.
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Yea, I thought the squeal went away, so I hoped for the best and left it alone. I have a little 1 car garage so I'll do it today. I'm guessin by the engine pan you mean the thing covering the underside of the engine...it's off already, I was meaning to do these belts the day after it started.

Oh yea, they defenitly need to be tensioned, it's got like 10 mm of "defelection".
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Ok, tensioned it and now theres no sign of squealing...

BUT, I tensioned it too much the first time, so it didn't start the first time, it tried, then shut itself off from cranking, made a weird clicking sound from the cockpit (sounded like it was coming from the guage cluster)...anyone know what this means?

Anyway, loosened up the belt, and went to start her up again, I got the clicking sound again, and no cranking. I disconnected the battery, checked all the fuses...none blown. Pulled all the relays and put them back in. And reconnected the battery, started right up after that. Took it for a ride around the block, and came home, shut the engine off and tried to restart, SAME CLICKING NOISE. Did the same thing as before except pulled all the relays out and left them out for about 5 mins, and then disconnected the battery for about 10 mins. It started right up, let it run for about 5 mins, shut it off again and tried to start it, I was succesful this time.

I know I wrote that whole thing for nothing probably, but anyway, I wanted to know what the clicking noise means, I thought if I told you guys exactly what I did it would help. I do not have the A/C compressor hooked up it that makes a difference. Also, if you know why the noise started I'd like to know as well.

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The clicking your describing sounds like a dead battery? Has the car been sitting much?

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I had recharged the battery, it was holding 13.25 volts. The battery is shot and won't hold a charge long but it hold for a day or so without dropping below 10 volts. But it defenitly seemed like a dead battery, a couple times, the dash lights would decide to come on real dim.

The clicking noise seemed like it had a specific number of clicks to it, and the clicks were evenly spaced (i.e. *click*1 sec pause *click*1 sec pause *click* etc.). They kept on going with or without the key in the ignition.
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Does it sound like its coming from the relays? Sound anything like the directionals click?
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Does it sound like its coming from the relays? Sound anything like the directionals click
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"The battery is shot and won't hold a charge long but it hold for a day or so without dropping below 10 volts. But it defenitly seemed like a dead battery, a couple times, the dash lights would decide to come on real dim."


If you KNOW you have a bad battery. BINGO!...... theres your clicking sound. Replace the battery, check and clean wire terminals. Cold weather is not kind to batteries,especially "shot" ones.
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I have to second Ken's assesment. If the battery is shot, the cold weather will reduce the cranking amps. Get a battery or throw a jump pack on it if your impatient.

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