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Old 09-19-2017, 07:44 AM
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Question Which transaxle is this?

Hi all, hoping one of you transmission wizards can help me...
Long story short I've pulled the transaxle in my 1987 ROW 944 after it was making some suspicious noises, suspect bad bearing?
Its obviously been pulled before by the PO because the bolts in the driveshaft coupler were basically stripped out..
The code on it is QK 29116. Clarks mentioned that the QK series was built between 1982 and 1985? But its got a late 86 build date?
Its got the speedo sensor in the right place and it looks factory... Could this be the transmission out of a 924S or something!?
If that's the case is it OK to use this in a late 944 gearing wise? Or should into sourcing a used one that matches the year of the car?

Appreciate any help/confirmation on this?

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The QK has exactly the same ratios as the later 5Y used by the 944/924S from 85.5+ If it shows signs of being swapped out Its most likely been swapped by a later produced new factory part. Factory continued to make parts long after model production ended.
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QK transaxles were used on '87 and '88 924S models as well. They were made up to '87. The ring and pinion and gear ratio are the same as the '87 944 NA US models except the 5th gear which is shorter. I am not sure what was the 5th gear on '87 944 Row models.
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Dimi, I'm assuming the QK was merely relabeled as a 5Y for the 87-88 924S and later 944's. Is that what you are saying?

From Clarks:

QK 944 (1982-1985) ROW

1. 10:36 (3.600)
2. 16:34 (2.1250)
3. 24:35 (1.4583)
4. 28:30 (1.0714)
5. 35:29 (0.8286)
FD. 9:35 (3.8889)

5Y 944 (1985.5-1988) 924S (1986-1988) ROW

1. 10:36 (3.600)
2. 16:34 (2.1250)
3. 24:35 (1.4583)
4. 28:30 (1.0714)
5. 35:29 (0.8286)
FD. 9:35 (3.8889)
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How difficult is it to pull one out?
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Originally Posted by sracer
How difficult is it to pull one out?
I've only done it on a lift and it took me all day with only a few small breaks. The hardest part for me was the torque tube coupling, the bolt would not budge even with heat and I had to eventually cut it off. I would not like to attempt it on floor jacks but I know people who have. Here are the instructions from Clarks.
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Interesting! Thanks for the information guys. I thought it seemed odd because my 83 car also has a QK transmission but it doesn't have the hole drilled and tapped for the Speedo reference sensor. Do 924S's use a sensor at the transmission or at the front wheels like early 944's?

Sracer, It took me and a mate about 4 hours (and a couple beers) with the car on jack stands doing the job for the first time. Having done it once now i'd say it could be done in 3 or less, baring any complications (there are usually complications) We used the instructions from Clarks and YouTube
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Originally Posted by MAGK944
Dimi, I'm assuming the QK was merely relabeled as a 5Y for the 87-88 924S and later 944's. Is that what you are saying?

From Clarks:

QK 944 (1982-1985) ROW

1. 10:36 (3.600)
2. 16:34 (2.1250)
3. 24:35 (1.4583)
4. 28:30 (1.0714)
5. 35:29 (0.8286)
FD. 9:35 (3.8889)

5Y 944 (1985.5-1988) 924S (1986-1988) ROW

1. 10:36 (3.600)
2. 16:34 (2.1250)
3. 24:35 (1.4583)
4. 28:30 (1.0714)
5. 35:29 (0.8286)
FD. 9:35 (3.8889)
Yes and no. QK was used for '87-'88 924S US models and had the provisioning for a speed sensor but plugged when used on the 924S. It appears that it was used as a replacement for 5Y as well.
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thanks for the insight on the removal!
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Originally Posted by FourtyFourNZ
Interesting! Thanks for the information guys. I thought it seemed odd because my 83 car also has a QK transmission but it doesn't have the hole drilled and tapped for the Speedo reference sensor. Do 924S's use a sensor at the transmission or at the front wheels like early 944's?

Sracer, It took me and a mate about 4 hours (and a couple beers) with the car on jack stands doing the job for the first time. Having done it once now i'd say it could be done in 3 or less, baring any complications (there are usually complications) We used the instructions from Clarks and YouTube
The 924S uses the front wheel for the speedo.

The 924S is an early 944 in pretty much every way.
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Originally Posted by sracer
How difficult is it to pull one out?
I watched two guys swap a transmission in a 944spec car between sessions at Autobahn. But that wasn't the first time they did it, and all the bolts were in good shape.
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do a transaxle swap like this



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