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Old 07-21-2002, 06:06 PM
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Post Just got my '87 930 Today!

I am in love! Couple of quick questions on my new baby. The oil guage when standing still hovers just above the red, then when I start driving it goes into the red, then when I go back to idling it climbs almost to the top of the guage. Very puzzling, is this just a 930 quirk or do I need to add oil?

I had the car idling with AC at full blast for about twenty minutes and I noticed that the car started to almost stall as if it was going to cut out. It did this for several minutes went back to normal idle then back to almost stalling and then finally cut out. I restarted the car to then have it promptly cut out again. It's in the mid 80's here, is it shutting off to prevent over heating or is this something I should get checked out?

My concern is what if this happens in New York City traffic on a hot day. Is their any after market modification that you would recommend. Also the braking feels very s-l-o-w. Is their a braking package upgrade that you would recommend.

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Old 07-21-2002, 07:12 PM
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you need to have this checked immediately. i don't like the fact that you're running so hot. you should be driving around with the temp needle at 9 o'clock or a little less than that.

there are some good shops around the NYC area, IMHO you need to get your car looked at ASAP.

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Old 07-21-2002, 09:58 PM
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Do you know anybody in NYC that you recommend?
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Are you refering to your oil tank or engine temperature gauge? Always refer to the dipstick at the oil tank to read your oil level correctly. The oil tank guage can be off. Read your dipstick with the engine warmed up and at idle. It should read in the middle of the hashed area. When you're at idle, the oil level gauge will read higher than when you're driving.

If you are talking about engine temps, then you do need to have it looked at asap as Rich says. Check your oil level as mine will run a little hotter if it's down some, but not as hot as you say. Oil is what helps cool your engine. Make sure the fan on your oil cooler is working. It should come on at about 240 degrees I think. Mine has never gotten hot enough to turn on.

Not sure about the A/C question, but maybe there is an idle compensator when it kicks in?

The '87 has power brakes and should be pretty darn good for street driving, as they're great for the track with the right pads. Maybe a different coumpound will help. Big Reds are massive and a popular change for people who need even more braking power.

Just my $.02 worth.

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There are three oil-related gauges on your dash.
The one labled DRUCK or Press. is your oil pressure gauge and should read around 2-3 at idle and 4-5 while driving.
The oil temp gauge should read at around 9 0'clock or lower.
I believe the gauge you refer to, is the oil level gauge.
When the engine is cold, it will read very low. It is only accurate when the engine is up to normal running temp and the oil has expanded. At idle it should read correctly, as you accelerate it will drop.
As stated earlier, it is ONLY an indicator, always use your dip-stick for an accurate level reading. Check with engine idling at normal temp.
Don't fill it with oil based on the cold reading, you will end up causing problems.
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It's also worth noting that a 930 will consume a fair bit of oil compared to a "normal car". Check it frequently and always be sure you have enough oil in it.

You should only be concerned with the oil level gauge when the car is warm and idling on level ground. You can ignore it the rest of the time because it's reading is meaningless.

I find the gauge is pretty acurate is the car has close to the correct amount of oil in it. If the level drops too low, the gauge does all kinds of strange stuff. Check it with the dipstick (warm and idling on level ground). Then monitor it daily with the gauge. Check the dipstick from time to time too.
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teeka,

not sure where you are in the City.

Formula Motorsports, Long Island City, is owned by Mark Tashian, former Metro/NY PCA club prez. not too many folks on the planet know more than Mark about Porsche.

DeMan Motorsport, Nyack, NY. My guy. Excellent, busy shop. Great for performance modifications too.

Rennwerke, Elmsford. One of the most popular Porsche repair shops in Westchester. Cheech, the owner, is fun.

Rudtner's european auto repair, Freeport. Bill Rudtner is another great performance tuner and very active in PCA track events.

Some of the area dealerships also have excellent service departments. Prestige Porsche in Nanuet (Rockland County), has three excellent Porsche mechanics. Silver Star, Roslyn Heights.

Good luck!

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BTW. I'm presuming that you are describing the oil temp gauge and not oil level or druck. Since you describe running in the red and stalling.

But, the oil temp is only red near its top, around 10-11 o'clock. You would not start off hovering ABOVE the red. So you may be describing another of the "oil" gauges. In some cars, the oil level indicator hardly works at all. It is not an accurate measuring device and, as indicated by other posters, you must check the oil level by hand. Druck (or oil pressure) fluctuates as the car is operated. At the higher RPM, the druck needle should be planted near the top which is "5".

get out the owner's manual and identify for us which gauge your reading.

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I would have the car checked out. I am in the city and would be happy to confirm any of the problems you are noticing. I can also recommend my mechanic to you, who does a lot of work on turbos, (he is in stamford, CT). Feel free to email me.

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Sorry for the confusion. I was refering to the oil level guage not the temp guage. I checked the oil with the dipstick and it was reading just below the lower mark. Added 2 quarts. Took the car today to Lynmor Motors on Long Island and they told me that I was leaking oil from the oil line, tank to oil pump. They said I should think about replacing it as well as the oil tank sender gasket and oil switch. They quoted $1,062 to do the work. In addition they said my front brakes pads need to be replaced. Is this a good price.
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Teeka,

I would tell them you don't want the gold plated model, just the regular factory one if it really cost that much. :0

I'm thinking your talking about the oil tank to oil cooler hose which leads to the pump. Cost $25 or so and two new hose clamps. Get a part number to check. Unless your sending unit is leaking like a sieve, forget the oil sending unit gasket and sender if your gauge is reading as we said above. If it is, when you drain your tank to change your oil, it will take an hour to replace.

Brake pads are about $50-75 as seen in Panos and Excellence. Takes about an hour to replace. If it were rated 1-10 with 10 being hardest, it's about a 2. Any Porsche book can tell you how to replace them. Maybe the Pellican website has a tech article on it.

Jim



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