Current 930 Values are these Realistic?
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Assuming 930s are in the early phases of being viewed as collectibles and the price appreciation that goes with that, I wonder in the long run (e.g. 5-10 years from now) how much the market will discriminate between different types of cars... e.g. early 3.0Ls vs 3.3s, '89 G50s, slantnoses, etc. The 930 obviously had a 14 year run from '75-89.
Just to draw an analogy, the Lamborghini Countach was a more expensive and far lower production car than the 930 but similarly was produced from '74-90 and was frequently compared to the 930 in the late 70s. There's a wide disparity in terms of pricing between the early LP400 "periscopo" cars which go for $500K+ to the later versions, and small disparities between the quatrovalve cars and the anniversary additions vs others even among later cars.
We already see some differentiation between 3.0L's vs the 3.3s, plus premium for slantnoses or G50s. I just wonder if there will be broad disparities between 930 values in the long run or relatively modest discrepancies as we see today. Curious how other folks think about this.
Just to draw an analogy, the Lamborghini Countach was a more expensive and far lower production car than the 930 but similarly was produced from '74-90 and was frequently compared to the 930 in the late 70s. There's a wide disparity in terms of pricing between the early LP400 "periscopo" cars which go for $500K+ to the later versions, and small disparities between the quatrovalve cars and the anniversary additions vs others even among later cars.
We already see some differentiation between 3.0L's vs the 3.3s, plus premium for slantnoses or G50s. I just wonder if there will be broad disparities between 930 values in the long run or relatively modest discrepancies as we see today. Curious how other folks think about this.
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Is this speedometer correct?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-930-...US_Cars_Trucks
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Assuming 930s are in the early phases of being viewed as collectibles and the price appreciation that goes with that, I wonder in the long run (e.g. 5-10 years from now) how much the market will discriminate between different types of cars... e.g. early 3.0Ls vs 3.3s, '89 G50s, slantnoses, etc. The 930 obviously had a 14 year run from '75-89.
Just to draw an analogy, the Lamborghini Countach was a more expensive and far lower production car than the 930 but similarly was produced from '74-90 and was frequently compared to the 930 in the late 70s. There's a wide disparity in terms of pricing between the early LP400 "periscopo" cars which go for $500K+ to the later versions, and small disparities between the quatrovalve cars and the anniversary additions vs others even among later cars.
We already see some differentiation between 3.0L's vs the 3.3s, plus premium for slantnoses or G50s. I just wonder if there will be broad disparities between 930 values in the long run or relatively modest discrepancies as we see today. Curious how other folks think about this.
Just to draw an analogy, the Lamborghini Countach was a more expensive and far lower production car than the 930 but similarly was produced from '74-90 and was frequently compared to the 930 in the late 70s. There's a wide disparity in terms of pricing between the early LP400 "periscopo" cars which go for $500K+ to the later versions, and small disparities between the quatrovalve cars and the anniversary additions vs others even among later cars.
We already see some differentiation between 3.0L's vs the 3.3s, plus premium for slantnoses or G50s. I just wonder if there will be broad disparities between 930 values in the long run or relatively modest discrepancies as we see today. Curious how other folks think about this.
Lets assume condition is equal across the board and we're comparing apples to apples. Id say the early 3.0 cars may command the highest premium just b/c they are the oldest and hardest to find. The ROW cars will probably suffer the most in USA sales, but only if you consider a slower rate of appreciation suffering. The 3.3 cars from 86-89 will probably more or less get lumped together, with Slants, Targas, and Cabs commanding a premium. Not sure the 5-spd by itself in the 1989 will drive a different price point -- but being the newest and the last model will command more than an '88, just like an '88 may command slightly more than a '87, etc. Someone looking for a specific car like an '89 Slant Targa -- that may find its own ceiling.
Modifications? As long as they were tastefully done, period correct, and dont alter the basic DNA/visual identity of the car, that might add a little, but not much. I dont think they will hurt prices, but you just wont ever get your money back. Some will be willing to pay a premium, others no. If a 930 was completely track-prepped with roll cages and a new injection system, I think that may negatively affect resale value, but once again only if you consider less appreciation a negative.
But I dont think owners own these cars to reach a market price. We do what we want with them and if the market reacts well, its just a bonus. Whether stock or not, tracked or Sunday-driven, the joy is in the drive itself. I get joy just looking in the garage and saying "people like me dont own cars like that."
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So, how did this 1978 930 sell on eBay for $28,100? What am I missing???
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-930-...-/141272305667
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-930-...-/141272305667
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So, how did this 1978 930 sell on eBay for $28,100? What am I missing???
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-930-...-/141272305667
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-930-...-/141272305667
It is likely buyer knew what they were buying and paid big for this car. I would love to know what it sold for. Nice looking 930 and very important historically. 9308800012 was the 2nd production 3.3 liter North American 930 built.
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Im making more money sitting on my *** and watching my 930 collect dust than I am actually going into work and dealing with idiots all day.
Now if I only had about 10 more of these cars.
Now if I only had about 10 more of these cars.
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Once values reach a point (which I think we're seeing now), I believe ROW cars are no longer hamstringed by not being a U.S.-market car. Besides having more hp (always a good thing) and generally cleaner lines, the price to export them back to Europe no longer becomes an issue because the cars themselves have become so valuable. And of course when dollar is weaker, we see more cars leaving the U.S., and a Euro-spec car is preferred when exporting back to Euro-land.
At least this is what I keep telling myself!
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The grey market cars are more desirable in Europe, they are more robust and raw, the tax advantage is huge too. A US car has never paid it's tax in Germany and it will be collected when it's imported back home.