930 Turbo

Guys,

As anyone who has done the 964 body conversion on an early car will know, the rear lights and reflector don't exactly fit. Is anyone aware of a way to make them line up correctly?

TIA

Turbo 138

Hi TIA,
I have converted my slant nose to 964 turbo rear.
You'll need to cut off some metal. I am a new member here & I tried to post pix of my car but was unable to do it. I can email some pix if you like.

KeithC2Turto

I will try to be nice here. Why would you want to do such a thing?

I could see RUF bumpers or maybe RSR bumpers but the stock ones make the car..

Changing to C2T bumpers will kill any resale value and make it look like another 74 911 that someone tried to convert to a turbo look and got confused.

Sorry for the words but a stock 930 body is the best looking Porsche ever designed!

Just add H4's, maybe twin exaust, euro turn signels, and set to euro height and wow!!!

Don't get me wrong I love modified Porsches.

When my frend parks his red 84 930 w stock Fuch's next to my 91 C2Turbo w Ruf wheels, his car looks sooo hot and mine so-so!

If it's not to late, don't do it...

Christian K

Don't want to be negative, but I have to agree with Keith here. You will destroy the resale value on the car.

/c

84 Carrera

Sameer

I still love the 964 3.3 turbo S look and will probably change it to that next yr.

pete77930

I third keith's opinion.

rickc

The grass is always greener. I love the look of my stock'78, but I am tired of all the rubber bellows, and trim pieces that attract dust and dirt every time I drive down my road. I am going to the c2 update to lighten the car, and to make more room in the rear for my twin turbo setup. I don't know about your cars, but the rear bumper on my car is hot enough to fry hamburgers in the stock setup. Don't get me wrong...I am not doing anything that cannot be undone when the mood strikes. I am also doing the car for me...there is no mistaking it for a wannabee 911 turbo. My last car was bone stock SC garage queen that always worried me in parking lots,rain, mud,gravel DE events. I have personally had enough of that mindset for awhile. If our turbos become that valued, then someone will buy it regardless. I want to enjoy my car now, and not worry about what might be.

930 Turbo

Gents,

Thanks for your thoughts and comments however, I have already done the conversion. I did it because I like the feel of the early car but the look of the newer one. Not to mentioned that I have saved a huge amount of weight on the bumpers, which is important when you have just spent a lot of money on making it go faster.

rickc

You can always backdate to the original, as long as you have not sold the parts. I like the look of the C2 turbo and will be doing the same soon. I know of few 930's that are pristine without any modifications. Keep enjoying your car.

t.p.

i really like some of the RSR bumper conversions. with the right rims, that would be hot.

Harold

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by rickc:
<strong>You can always backdate to the original, as long as you have not sold the parts. I like the look of the C2 turbo and will be doing the same soon. I know of few 930's that are pristine without any modifications. Keep enjoying your car.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Unfortunately, due to the requirement to remove a portion of the rear body work behind the central light strip, converting back to the original 930 lights at the rear will be a pain- you will need to find replacement sheet metal and reweld....

Personally, I love the look of the original 930, and would have to agree that I would personally leave it that way rather than convert to the 965 look.

drmatera

i'm drooling over RSR front and rear bumpers for my '86 930... I like the shape of the 930 bumper, just not all the rubber bumper crap hung off it. The RSR rear keeps that same look only smoother.

911rudy

I have the 964 rear bumper but have not gotten around to the conversion yet. As mentioned above, heat is a real problem with glass so make sure you install a heat shield between the bumper and the turbo/muffler. I too like the smooth clean look of the 964 bumper and think it adds to the sleekness of the 930. Remember the bumper we have on the '89 and back cars was a stop gap untill a crash approved bumper could be designed. Those goofy looking black bricks was a cheap way for Porsche to comply with US crash laws. I know that the engineers at Stuttgart must have been crying when they were told that those ugly rear bumpers would be required. From what I can tell you can undo any required changes to mount the 964 bumper so keep the old one for the purist.

sfbanchs

personally i would take a 930 over a 964t any day looks, feel, and overall driving experience. leave your 930 bumpers even with the large rubber bumperettes.

turbo3six

I appreciate the aesthetic design of both the 930 and 965; but IMO updates/backdates RARELY meet the measure of their original configuration.
Whether it be the often used inferior aftermarket body parts or the lack of proper skills employed in the execution; to the knowing eye there are always distracting compromises revealed in the finished product.