911rudy

I don't know if these are fake or not but they are the most horrible pictures I have ever seen.

TroyN

Those are from the TV show Lost...

911rudy

Thank God!

Chuck Jones

I make it a habit of going to Snopes.com whenever I see or get something like this....it's becoming more and more common for folks to extract clips from movies and send them out as a real event. You'd think that folks had better things to do than create misinformation. Not too long ago there was another one of a newly designed super fighter....I forwarded it to my cousin who works for NASA asking about the new radical design....he told me it was a clip from the movie Stealth....I felt like a schmuck...so I check out almost everything now.

One of Twenty

I did not know that Enzos could fly. See, you learn something every day.

the_Wolf

Even if they weren't from the "Lost" clip, one would have to wonder...exactly how long is there daylight in the middle of the Atlantic ocean, near the Equator? The crash happened sometime between 11PM and 1AM, n'est pas? Far too much ambient light in the background of both those shots, given that fact. Horrifying to think about what it might be like in that instant, regardless.

jimculp

Last I heard was that the plane didn't break up until impact (disregarding the Lost photos).

911rudy

Chuck,
I, like you use snopes to verify things I see on the web but this article is interesting. Some profile on the snopers.
Subject: Snopes.com uncovered..when you read this you will look at snopes in ...
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 09:43:21 +0000


> For
> those of us who have relied on Snopes to verify truth, we
> may need to think again. It appears they may have a
> definite liberal bias from the article below.
> Obviously, I did not consult Snopes to verify
> this.
> >> READ FOR YOURSELF AND DECIDE....Guess we need to
> go back to doing our own homework friends!
> >>
> >>
> >> For the past few years www.snopes.com has
> positioned itself, or others
> >>> have labeled it as the 'tell-all, final
> word' on any comment, claim
> >>> and e-mail.>
> >>>
> >>> But for several years people tried to find out
> who exactly was behind
> >>> snopes.com. Only recently did Wikipedia get to
> the bottom of it -
> >>> kinda makes you wonder what they were hiding.
> Well, finally we know.
> >>> It is run by a husband and wife team -
> that's right, no big office of
> >>> investigators and researchers, no team of
> lawyers.
> It's just a
> >>> mom-and-pop operation that began as a hobby.
> >>>
> >>> David and Barbara Mikkelson in the San
> Fernando Valley of California
> >>> started the website about 13 years ago - and
> they have no formal
> >>> background or experience in investigative
> research. After a few years
> >>> it gained popularity believing it to be
> unbiased and neutral, but over
> >>> the past couple of years people started asking
> questions who was
> >>> behind it and did they have a selfish
> motivation? The reason for the
> >>> questions - or skepticisms - is a result of
> snopes.com claiming to
> >>> have the bottom line facts to certain
> questions or issues, when in
> >>> fact, they have been proven wrong. Also, there
> were criticisms the
> >>> Mikkelsons were not really investigating and
> getting to the 'true'
> >> bottom of various
> issues.
> >>
> >>
> >>> When I saw that Snopes had falsely claimed
> that Obama's Birth
> >>> Certificate had been properly validated, I
> realized something was
> >>> wrong with either their research and/or their
> credibility. It seems
> >>> something is seriously wrong with both.
> >>>
> >>> Then a few months ago, when my State Farm
> agent Bud Gregg in
> >>> Mandeville hoisted a political sign
> referencing Barack Obama and made
> >>> a big splash across the internet, supposedly
> the Mikkelson's claim to
> >>> have researched this issue before posting
> their findings on
> >>> snopes.com. In their statement they claimed
> the corporate office of
> >>> State Farm pressured Gregg into taking down
> the sign, when in fact
> >>> nothing of the sort ever took place.
> >>>
> >>> I personally contacted David Mikkelson
> (and he replied back to me)
> >>> thinking he would want to get to the bottom of
> this, and I gave him
> >>> Bud Gregg's contact phone numbers. Bud was
> going to give him phone
> >>> numbers to the big exec's at State Farm in
> Illinois who would have
> >>> been willing to speak with him about it. He
> never called Bud. In fact,
> >>
> >>> I learned from Bud Gregg no one from
> snopes.com ever contacted anyone
> >> with State Farm.
> >>> Yet snopes.com issued a statement as the
> 'final factual word' on the
> >>> issue as if they did all their homework and
> got to the bottom of
> >> things.
> >>> Not!
> >>>
> >>> Then it has been learned the Mikkelson's
> are very Democrat and
> >>> extremely liberal. As we all now know from
> this presidential election,
> >>> liberals have a purpose agenda to discredit
> anything that appears
> to
> >>> be conservative.
> >>
> >> There has been much criticism lately over the
> >>> internet with people pointing out the
> Mikkelson's liberalism revealing
> >>> itself in their website findings . Gee, what a
> shock!
> >>>
> >>> So, I say this now to everyone who goes to www.snopes.com to get
> what
> >>> they think to be the bottom line facts:
> Proceed with caution . Take
> >>> what it says at face value and nothing more.
> Use it only to lead you
> >>> to their references where you can link to and
> read the sources for
> >> yourself.
> >>
> >> Plus, you can always google a subject and do the
> research yourself. It
> >>> now seems apparent that's all the
> Mikkelson's do. After all, I can
> >>> personally vouch from my own experience for
> their 'not' fully
> looking
> >>> into things.
> >>>
> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snopes.com

I don't know if this article is true but maybe snopes.com will look into it.

Chuck Jones

Rudy: That info on Snopes has been around for a bit....and although I do use Snopes to try to verify some of the misinformation that seems to permeate the internet (who thinks these things up in the first place?)....I also know that even Snopes can have a bias and put an editorial slant on something. I would imagine that someone with a lot of influence...or $$$...could entice the site owners to slant a story or influence their "findings". That's why, i you're not in a hurry and really want to dig into the facts, your research should also include Googling the subject matter. Snopes still remains as a quick reference point to give you the "rest of the story". I've found that most of the time, they do provide fairly accurate info....regardless of whether or not they have a PhD in research analysis....just as there are a lot of guys on this and other forums who are crackerjack mechanics without a degree in Automotive Mechanics or engineering from MIT.

A930Rocket

Those pics remind me of this one that was passed around shortly after 9/11. It was of a kid who had his picture taken just before impact and his camera was found in the wreckage of the towers. When developed or downloaded, you could see the plane...

Obviously, nothing survived the collapse and the picture is fake, but it had some people going for a while.