I inherited a 1977 911 Turbo about a year ago, it has been in my family for the past 20 years and was my dad’s pride and Joy. While I like the car I can’t afford a “Garage Queen” i.e. a car that is only driven 1,000 miles per year. I am seriously considering selling it or trading it for a more modern Porsche like a 2002-2004 Boxster S or 993. I have been on the Heming’s & NADA and the values listed range from $20K to $40K. I was hoping that the Rennlist community may have some valuation advice.

Exterior:
The car is a 1977 Guards Red European spec 911 Turbo Carrera (No A/C) that my dad bought in 1987 in Gothenburg (Sweden) and had shipped to the U.S. in 1994. The car had 47,000 km (≈31k miles) originally and now has 67,000 km (≈45k miles). As a 1977 the car is emissions exempt for WA State (King County) but it did pass its last emissions test back in 2001. The car has never been in a major accident but has had a respray, about an 8 out of 10 job, the paint is thick and glossy and there is no overspray but the new paint (well 1985 or so) has begun to crack in the engine compartment.

Interior:
The interior is black full leather with the original sport seats and I have an additional pair of black leather standard seats from a 77 911S (better for my 6’5” 275 lb frame). I am missing the original Carrera style steering wheel but I have the stock 4 spoke wheel from a 77’ 911S and a nice Momo Monte Carlo with Porsche hub & horn button. The car has a nice cassette receiver (Alpine) with a revolving face, a 6 disk CD changer and an Alpine amplifier.

Mechanical:
The car has good Yokahama AVS tires all around on 16” Fuchs alloy wheels. The turbo was replaced back in 1995 and a 1.0 bar spring was added to the waste-gate. The exhaust has been replaced with a BB stainless steel system. The Turbo has Carrera tensioners, and an upgraded oil cooler with all new SS lines. The brakes have been upgraded with Brembo cross-drilled rotors.

On the down side, the main seal has a slight leak and the transmission sometimes grinds on a quick 1-2 up shift. The clutch is fair but can be coaxed into slipping at full throttle start ups on dry pavement, oil from the main seal no doubt. The left rear brake caliper has a slight leak (I check the brake fluid weekly but have not needed to add fluid). But I know that the rear caliper for the 77’ is cheap (relatively) so I will probably replace it before I show the car.

Literature:
I have a 4” thick book of receipts, original owner’s manual (Swedish) and a reprint in English, 1977 brochure in Swedish & English. I also have the 3 volume set of Porsche Service Manuals and the Bentley Guide for the 911SC.

I think I would ask around $25k in a private sale, does that sound about right? If there are any dealers out there I would like to know what it would be worth in trade before I get on a dealer’s lot.

Thanks,

Anders

 

It would be nice to see some pictures. I would say that based on your description $25K would be a decent starting price for the car- I would pay about $22K for it if I were in the market. Just my opinion and pictures would help with the valuation.

 

Check Excellence for reference. Hemmings is showing from 22 to 39. Hold on to it and you will get more in the future. Good Luck

 

Hmmm, that brings up an interesting point, do you think a 77’ Turbo Carrera has any up-side (appreciation) potential. Leaving it in the garage costs me $103 per year for full insurance coverage (as a collector vehicle with $28K agreed value). I also don’t need to worry about repairs if I don’t drive it. After all, it is second most beautiful cars (only second to the BB512 IMHO) produced in an era of remarkably homely cars.

It would be nice if it was a 76’ (1st year in US) or a 78’ (mit intercooler). I know it hasn’t gone down in value over the past 10 years.

 

At this point and time, depending on the year these cars are 18 to 31 years old now. Clean earlier ones (76-79) are becoming harder to find now without some kind of baggage attached to them. Supply vs Demand is becoming your friend now if you own one.

 

Don't be too quick to part with it. I saw a stock '76 on Ebay for $68,000.

I seriously doubt it sold, but my point is that your car is almost STOCK. With a few minor things, you have a completely stock Porsche in good shape.

I can't tell you the value, but I can tell you that STOCK Porsches are worth much more than the much nicer and faster modified ones.

That's the truth. You should be able to get more than what other people are getting for their modified 930's.

Don't even think about letting it go for less than 30 grand, IMO.

You might want to contact Sloan, the guy that advertises at the back of the Excellence magazine. He deals in stock Porsches with low mileage. I bet he could sell yours or at least tell you what he would ask for it. Do a search under sloan + car + Porsche and you will probably find his website.

 

sloancars.com

1st gen 930's are the best!

Good luck and I think you're on target for price. Pics please.

 

Because I am not a full member I cant post pics but I did change my Avatar, now my Avatar is the 930 rather than the 930's old K-27.

 

There are always blips but generally the trend will be upward. People always forget that during half the production cycle(which was long and slow--very slow) 930s were not brought into the US by Porsche. Yes, there were grey market cars but volume was low(since they were very popular in Europe too).
The other huge advantage is the drive itself--they are spectacular driver cars--even the enthusiast magazines are crazy for them,plus the look stops traffic(in a good way). I agree the 512BB(i) was a great car of the era and still cheap compared to other Ferraris.

 

Oh yes! Some day I will have a Carbureted BB 512 as a garage queen (or 365BB). Not this year though. Of course I will need a nice 1972 911S Targa right next to it, one major difference between the two is that I could actually drive the 911S.

 

As others have posted, I think you're roughly in the ballpark for the selling/asking price. However, I don't know if there is much appreciation value to 930s. They're not particularly rare. But heck, maybe I'll be pleasantly wrong. Nevertheless, I don't know if you should hold onto the car just for investment's sake. But it would be hard for me (personally) to sell a car as beautiful as a 930 that's been in my family for 20 years and was my dad's baby.

 

Ok, I've had my 76 for 22 years. They'll have to pry it out of my cold dead hands as the saying goes. With just a few mods you can put out 300hp. Many years ago I had added a Garretson IC, and a K-27 to a stock Euro. I ran it against a stock 79 that supposedly was well sorted and walked away. I think the 76 and 77's were 200 lbs lighter. Since then I've done all the usual engine upgrades except EFI. I added big reds in front and the usual suspension upgrades as well. As DDD says these cars are rockets. I gave him grief a couple of weeks ago for racing mustangs. I was only half serious about that. DDD is a fellow 76er so he has to be alright. You can do the intercooler yourself if you can screw in a lightbulb. Don't sell it. It is a legacy.

 

See....when I read this kinda stuff then I start thinking again.....dont sell your 930 Chet.....just let it sit in the garage. Who cares if it gets a little dusty and what not......at least it'll be there when your time comes back.

 

Or until I can afford to buy it! My wife won't let me get another one right now.

I asked.

 

Email me your pics and I will gladly host and hyperlink them for you....slownrusty@yahoo.com

Regards - Yasin