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Old 01-15-2007, 07:01 AM
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Anyone has pictures from the "perfect header"?
and maybe diameters of the tubes?

*without heater sheets

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Old 01-15-2007, 08:53 AM
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Marco Manzie's are supposed to be very good.

http://images.google.com/images?hl=e...-8&sa=N&tab=wi
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Oh yes, they look sweet!
unfortunatly only small pics to see...

Is it really neccessary trying to get equal lenght for a 930?


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The large pics have been pulled unfortunately.

I don't think it's necessary to go equal length- my GHL's are not- but they sure look nice.
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Will these headers give any improvement on my 930?
There is a 7006 11/11 turbo on the car.
They are steel, 40mm tubes.





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Real true equal length headers are the best. The ones pictured above are not a great design.
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Originally Posted by underpsi
Real true equal length headers are the best. The ones pictured above are not a great design.
...thats what I feel too.

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Old 01-15-2007, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by underpsi
Real true equal length headers are the best. The ones pictured above are not a great design.
True, but those headers would still provide a noticeable improvement over the stock headers. The larger piping will do wonders for spoolup. True equal length becomes important at higher rwhp levels and when you are trying to spool a relatively massive turbo.
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Originally Posted by jimculp
The large pics have been pulled unfortunately.

I don't think it's necessary to go equal length- my GHL's are not- but they sure look nice.
Jim, I think that may be Don Enderleins website, username DonE.
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Originally Posted by nathanUK '81 930 G50
Jim, I think that may be Don Enderleins website, username DonE.
I tried to find a place to enter a username, but could not find one. It seems like he has pulled all the Marco Manzie stuff- maybe he got rid of them?

http://www.brookstonefarms.com/930.html
Old 01-15-2007, 05:51 PM
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No, Don still has them. I have seen them in person...awesome setup. They are 3 piece, utilizing 2 v-band clamps. Took us about 20 mintes to get the whole header system off. I am currently having Marco make me an exact set... Not cheap though
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Those are very nice. Looks like he uses the Burns collectors which are the best I've seen this side of F1. I think we can all agree that we spend stupid amounts of money on these cars... so what kind of not cheap range are we talking? $4K, $5K ?
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The Burns collectors are works of art. As I told Falk, if I had to do it all again, I would have ordered the short pipes instead of the equal length since most of my driving is in lower RPM's - quicker spool and velocity. Otherwise, equal length is the only way to go for the track.

Marco is hard to work with now since he is so busy. You might want to talk to his ex-boss, Joe Essa at Essa Tech (Ft Lauderdale) where the original design came from. However, Joe does not use as tight of radius as Marco, but they use the same supplier - Burns.
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Originally Posted by 125shifter
Those are very nice. Looks like he uses the Burns collectors which are the best I've seen this side of F1. I think we can all agree that we spend stupid amounts of money on these cars... so what kind of not cheap range are we talking? $4K, $5K ?
I bought mine, 2 years ago, for $2800 - this included the v-band connectors (primary to secondary), t-4 flange and 3.2L exhaust flanges.
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Originally Posted by 125shifter
Those are very nice. Looks like he uses the Burns collectors which are the best I've seen this side of F1. I think we can all agree that we spend stupid amounts of money on these cars... so what kind of not cheap range are we talking? $4K, $5K ?
The Burn's stuff is excellent, I use them all the time. The top colectors out there, and headers for that matter, are from Reid Washbon, he is the header designer/fabricator for Porsche Motorsports, quite awsome units., cheers, Sonny.


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