930T vs 996TT
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Aerodynamics play a lot in it. I would not be messing with an Acura NSX on the street. What they lack in HP they make up for in a real slippery profile. From 100mph to 150mph they are reportedly one of the fastest cars ever built. As friction starts to win the war on your car, the power to overcome it goes up expoentially or something like that. I think those NSXs only have 270 or 290hp. What they lack in off-the-line acceleration they make up for once you start to approach triple digits.
There was a Mercedes saloon or LS430 or something that I read once that had pretty remarkable acceleration from about 110mph to 150mph because it was a proverbial bullet through the air. Cant remember when and where I read it.
There was a Mercedes saloon or LS430 or something that I read once that had pretty remarkable acceleration from about 110mph to 150mph because it was a proverbial bullet through the air. Cant remember when and where I read it.
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This is very dissapointing. No one wins at street racing. You're putting the general public at risk along with yourself and the moron you were racing. Take that aggression to the track and exercise your machine where it's meant to be driven fast. Just kidding- thanks for the story.
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Originally Posted by UDPride
Aerodynamics play a lot in it. I would not be messing with an Acura NSX on the street. What they lack in HP they make up for in a real slippery profile. From 100mph to 150mph they are reportedly one of the fastest cars ever built.
I get into street races with my 996TT from time to time, but I'd never go at it with another Porsche........the old kissing your sister bit
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It's nice to have a go though eh!! Mine's still got the stock wheels and muffler too so people think it's still around 300bhp, What would a 996TT cost to buy and mod up to 700-800bhp, if this year goes well with the business i might start thinking about a more modern porker, or should i stay away from water pumpers and get a late 993TT and mod the hell out of that?? Or should i just be happy with my almost 500bhp and get something totally different like a F355
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If you are building a race car for the PCA GT1 class, the 996tt is a superior platform, though you can clearly have success with a 930 as Rick Deman proved. If you are building a DE car, the 930 will be plenty fine. If you are building a street car, aerodynamics won't matter at all, as you will rarely see the 100+ mph where they come into play.
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Winner of the Porsche Open Series here in the UK is a 935 look 930. Richard Chamberlain.
Found this with Google.
From Sundays Porsche Open at Thruxton. Richard Chamberlain in his 935 (#5) managed to lap the entire grid within 12 laps, being a good 10s a lap quicker than anyone else 8) He got a big cheer from the crowd!
Found this with Google.
From Sundays Porsche Open at Thruxton. Richard Chamberlain in his 935 (#5) managed to lap the entire grid within 12 laps, being a good 10s a lap quicker than anyone else 8) He got a big cheer from the crowd!
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They're both incredible cars. Completely different genres, but what the hey. I flew F-4s in the USAF and the F-22 is a starship compared to that thing, so as time marches on, so does technology. I love the raw gutteral mechanical 930. Its like the F-4. Just brute force. Proves if you put enough horsepower on something you can make it fly. The 996TT is much more Gran Touring. Electronic everything thinking and acting for you. Like fly-by-wire on the F-22. Its much easier to drive the 996 fast in my opinion, but if you get over the edge on it you not only have to fight physics but you have to fight the electronics too. Nothing wrong with either one, they're just different.
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They say the same about the F40 and the Enzo, yes the Enzo is easier to drive and a bit quicker but the F40 is totally no interference and therefore a better drivers car. I don't think I will ever sell my 930, I’m not sure I will be happy living with 500bhp though either, I know it's probably more power than I will ever have the skill to use to it's potential but for instance, on the way down to le mans last year, me in the 930 and my mate in his Tuscan, everyone is driving like maniacs it's just the way it goes, and we are leapfrogging traffic driving almost flat out everywhere basically at the limit, then a Zonda and a Maclaren F1 pass us into a corner like we are stood still, I’m not sure where I’m going with this but if there is more power to have and I can possibly afford it then, (like when I was three year old), I WANT it. Surely an 800bhp 996TT would be able to mix it with those boys and for a lot less money! What kind of reliable BHP can you get out of a 993TT without spending more than $70k on Mods
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Car and Driver, August 1998:
0-150-0 Comparison Test
This month's Car and Driver features a 0 - 150 - 0 competition as it's cover story. The article was set-up to compare some supertuned cars (Mustangs, Vipers, a Vette, and a Mercedes SL), but they tested several stock cars to use as a baseline. One of these cars was a Kaiser Silver and Onyx 1998 Acura NSX Coupe (not targa) with the 6-speed manual transmission. For the stock cars, the NSX came in second overall, beating all but the Viper Coupe. It beat (in order) the C5, the BMW 540, the Jag XJR, the Camaro Z28 SS, and the Porsche 911 (996). They had a few interesting things to say about it:
"[the NSX] diced with the Corvette to 130 mph before pulling decisively ahead to reach 150mph two seconds in front of the Vette."
"the NSX returned the fourth-best OVERALL (including modified) stopping distance at 742 feet, trailing only the Corvette among the stockers."
"Our low-miliage Porsche was neither the fastest not the slowest 911 we've tested, but it was no match for the rocket NSX........... The 911's 10 - second time from 140 to 150 mph was the longest of any car's in the test, and five seconds longer than the NSX's."
0-150-0 Comparison Test
This month's Car and Driver features a 0 - 150 - 0 competition as it's cover story. The article was set-up to compare some supertuned cars (Mustangs, Vipers, a Vette, and a Mercedes SL), but they tested several stock cars to use as a baseline. One of these cars was a Kaiser Silver and Onyx 1998 Acura NSX Coupe (not targa) with the 6-speed manual transmission. For the stock cars, the NSX came in second overall, beating all but the Viper Coupe. It beat (in order) the C5, the BMW 540, the Jag XJR, the Camaro Z28 SS, and the Porsche 911 (996). They had a few interesting things to say about it:
"[the NSX] diced with the Corvette to 130 mph before pulling decisively ahead to reach 150mph two seconds in front of the Vette."
"the NSX returned the fourth-best OVERALL (including modified) stopping distance at 742 feet, trailing only the Corvette among the stockers."
"Our low-miliage Porsche was neither the fastest not the slowest 911 we've tested, but it was no match for the rocket NSX........... The 911's 10 - second time from 140 to 150 mph was the longest of any car's in the test, and five seconds longer than the NSX's."
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The NSX is quite slippery and a twin turboed one will make sushi of even a well prepped 930. In the late nineties I had a 450 rwhp Nissan 300ZXTT prepped by Stillen and purchased through Nismo, while it was faster than my 993tt the brakes and suspension were suicide and the heavily modded Toyota Supras and NSXs ran rings around me but in the straights I ate them up. I never felt confident taking that porker deep into a turn, while the NSX drivers stayed on the go pedal longer. I still wouldn't trade my 930 for one though and soon I will have a 550rwhp beast shifted through either a Ruf 5spd or a Patrick G50/50. Guys lets take our blinders off for a second... there are lots of cars out there making more power to the ground than our cars, and for less money but we are drawn by cache and heritage or we would all be driving Dodge SRT4 (I am a New Car Dealer btw/attorney, so I think I am qualified to say this). Have fun be safe and most of all realistic about the ability of the driver you street race and yours as well.
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JBL930, I know what you mean about LeMans. I've never been fortunate enough to drive over after the ferry from England, but Friday night on the Mulsanne is a definite trip. We flew into DeGaulle. My rental was a Peugot turbo diesel (don't remember the number). My mates and I were running up and down Mulsanne through the Mulsanne corner into Arnage as fast as that slug would pedal in a light misting rain. We had all kinds of exotics blowing by us like we were backing up! People on both sides of the road cheering as we went by. What a party! It was a definite memory I'll never forget. On Sunday after the race I let all of my passengers have at least one go up and back on it. I was amazed at how fast that road went from race track back to normal roadway. As I was "screaming" through there I thought of Ickxx, Wolleck, Elford, Hobbs, Stuck and all of the rest of those guys at 220+ mph with no chicane, flat bottoms on the cars and that hump being about twice as high as it is now. It was bloody great fun! Anyone who hasn't gone needs to. Next time I'm getting a 911.